1. #5121
    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    I do not really read guides. Sometimes it is both fun but also horrifying to give them a quick look and think that new players actually reads them and trust the information given.
    HAHA, yeah. I have been holy for about five years now, and I don't remember the last time I looked at a guide... though I did like discussing changes with other dorakadins on the forums. /grin

    The reason I'm looking for prot NOW is just because I have to put something together relatively quickly, since I'm supposed to tank tomorrow (maybe). No heroics or anything, we're a very casual 7/14 heroic, but we've been running normals to gear up new people.

    That said... from picking around on the forums... I'm guessing my warforged PPoP would be better than my ToT dps/tank trinkets? Is this just because of the haste amp? I also have the flex Malkorok trinket.
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  2. #5122
    Quote Originally Posted by Taygete View Post
    HAHA, yeah. I have been holy for about five years now, and I don't remember the last time I looked at a guide... though I did like discussing changes with other dorakadins on the forums. /grin

    The reason I'm looking for prot NOW is just because I have to put something together relatively quickly, since I'm supposed to tank tomorrow (maybe). No heroics or anything, we're a very casual 7/14 heroic, but we've been running normals to gear up new people.

    That said... from picking around on the forums... I'm guessing my warforged PPoP would be better than my ToT dps/tank trinkets? Is this just because of the haste amp? I also have the flex Malkorok trinket.
    PPoP ~ Thok tail tip for all intended purposes.

  3. #5123
    Well, I mean. It kinda depends on your gear. The amp trinkets obviously scale with how good your current gear is. The only trinket from ToT that however could compete with them is the Horridon trinket, but it depends on your item level.
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    I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.

  4. #5124
    From a pure haste PoV, heroic WF amp trinket gives about the same amount of haste as a heroic 2/2 spark of zandalar if you are at 21250 haste with the amp trinket equipped.
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  5. #5125
    Yeah it was just the Ji'kun ret and prot trinkets. This is where I'm at, just for reference, since I can post in the other thread eventually if I need to: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...lthea/advanced

    I know a lot of the pieces aren't ideal, but in all the time that I've been healing I rarely use my offspec, ret or prot. So it's basically the junk no one else wants. But it's a start, I guess.

    Thanks again
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    I'm still alive. Somewhat. Revising for uni exams is so dull. MOP just became a little boring for me unfortunately, I kept trying to come back but without the old crew it was never the same. Seeing people with their offspec or "last second throw together" better geared than me is how my offspecs must've made people feel in Cata and WOTLK

  7. #5127
    All,

    I'm feeling a bit squishy and I wanted some advice, if any can be had. Here's my pallie: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ronbrto/simple (I realize my hit is high; I just got the neck piece last night and didn't reforge yet).

    He's decently geared for normal, and that's where I'm having issues. It feels like he's always at 50% health and struggling. I understand how critical SotR is and I spam to get to it, save it for big hits, etc. I'm ok with eternal flame; I could be a little better with it, but I essentially always have it up. Same thing with Divine Protection.

    Now, my first tank was a guardian druid and I'm like an idiot savant on that guy. Perhaps my healers just slack on me, thinking I'm still on my bear? I'm certainly not a perfect tank, but I'd like to at least survive protectors or iron jugg without clenching my anus. Thanks in advance.

  8. #5128
    We really need logs to offer helpful advice.

  9. #5129
    Quote Originally Posted by trystero View Post
    We really need logs to offer helpful advice.
    No logs are just available without me downloading a mod or something, correct?

  10. #5130
    You have to write /combatlog in wow to start logging into your combatlog, then you can upload your logs from boss fights.
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    I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axon14 View Post
    No logs are just available without me downloading a mod or something, correct?
    Nope.

    On a very minor note, if you swapped the gems in your hat and shield around you gain 60 strength at no cost.

  12. #5132
    Quote Originally Posted by MerinPally View Post
    Nope.

    On a very minor note, if you swapped the gems in your hat and shield around you gain 60 strength at no cost.
    u wot m8??!

    thanks, good call

  13. #5133
    I can't believe I missed the argument between SW and HA. And, I guess the answer is pretty obvious! Winner is DP!

  14. #5134
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazel View Post
    I can't believe I missed the argument between SW and HA. And, I guess the answer is pretty obvious! Winner is DP!
    Haha. It was much more interesting argument back in T14. DP has been so strong in T15 and T16. In T15 it was not really much of an argument as there was so few bosses that required CDs.

    The argumentation still lives on, but it is not as relevant anymore as it used to be.

    I still remember the T1 talent arguments, oh god. So many players used to play with PoJ it made me scared of the dark.
    I made thread about it in T14, but most discussion was in the prot paladin thread, not so much discussion in that thread.
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...nd-discussions
    Kinda nostalgic to read that now.

    Or the haste vs expertise discussion.
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ap-exp-with-SW
    I got to admit I wrote that thread to plant the seed that not expertise capping is actually a good thing to do even if you do not play with SW, but it was much easier to sell with SW.

    I know I made a few mathematical errors in that one though. Dont remember if I fixed it in that thread or in later discussion. Either way it had little impact on the results though.

    And oh gosh. I made such a wall of text post on the second page there that noone replied to

    I know I was kinda masking my whole opinion about expertise a bit though. In all honesty I thought it was not even a debate at the time. But it was such an unpopular opinion, it was like writing a post about the earth being round in the middle ages. I had to pretend like I thought it was a reasonable option and debate to be had.
    Last edited by Firefly33; 2014-04-24 at 08:19 AM.
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    I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.

  15. #5135
    DP in T15 was even greater due to T15 4 set and /sitting during DP for basically max HP every sit lol and those combined = solo tanking / bubbling off stacks. Loved that tier.


  16. #5136
    Quote Originally Posted by Jellospally View Post
    DP in T15 was even greater due to T15 4 set and /sitting during DP for basically max HP every sit lol and those combined = solo tanking / bubbling off stacks. Loved that tier.
    I honestly believe T15 was the best designed tanking tier ever with either T11 or T14 as second.
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    I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.

  17. #5137
    Am I the only moron who didn't sit to get vengeance? ><

    Edit: Nevermind I found my old rank 2 on Lei Shen heroic, soaking decapitate and sitting with guardian+HA.
    Last edited by Lazel; 2014-04-24 at 08:33 AM.

  18. #5138
    The set bonus is general I liked... sitting was kinda fun... i guess? but i dont miss it i can tell you that


  19. #5139
    Because it wasn't appealing to sit in order to get more damage, thus, dealing more damage. It's fine as it is now. I didn't like standing in Iron Qon's fire and get ridiculous vengeance because people sucked in first phase so we had to end it asap. No more cheesing anymore in T16, so that's what I like ^^
    Last edited by Lazel; 2014-04-24 at 09:13 AM.

  20. #5140
    Cant make a lasagna without cheese.

    #MakesNoSense
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    I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.

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