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    Nottingham wasn't where I wanted to be, I wanted to go to Imperial College London and they gave me an offer of AAA but I somehow missed it, got AAB in the end. However, I was too concerned about missing out on AAB and going to UCL I thought that was too much of a risk, Notts was my lowest offer so I took that to make certain I went to a decent uni. When somewhere like Notts is your 5th choice, to cry about going there would be pathetic.

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    Of course, Nottingham has the advantage that you can move out of Halls in your third year and find a relatively nice place/not bad place near the Uni without totally breaking the bank, like you would in London.
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    Definitely a good thing, however most people move out myself included and live in the nearby student area of Lenton. Normally the only people who stay in halls are loaded non-UK students Guy who lives next door to me is in his 2nd of 3 years and is Turkish, he'll probably stay next year too.

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    Would like to know if any you guys went mastery over haste for Sha of Fear heroic? seems like a decent idea with dread trash etc..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacebot View Post
    Would like to know if any you guys went mastery over haste for Sha of Fear heroic? seems like a decent idea with dread trash etc..?
    Can't speak from a paladin PoV, since i tanked it as warrior. But i doubt you would want to sacrifice even a bit of control for extra mitigation on dread thrash. They hit pretty damn hard, but SoTR and DP with unbreakable spirit is more than enough. If you for some reason don't have DP up for a D-thrash you can just ask for an ironbark. It's more about understanding his timing than going overkill with cooldowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacebot View Post
    Would like to know if any you guys went mastery over haste for Sha of Fear heroic? seems like a decent idea with dread trash etc..?
    Yes, mastery is very good on sha of fear. If you have access to mastery gear, by all means, equip it for sha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teks View Post
    Can't speak from a paladin PoV, since i tanked it as warrior. But i doubt you would want to sacrifice even a bit of control for extra mitigation on dread thrash. They hit pretty damn hard, but SoTR and DP with unbreakable spirit is more than enough. If you for some reason don't have DP up for a D-thrash you can just ask for an ironbark. It's more about understanding his timing than going overkill with cooldowns.
    the point of going for the mastery was the amount of damage dread trash does - you can still time sotr with dread trash without going fully for haste but it'll reduce it more?

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    Mastery is better than haste in terms of survivability on Sha HC, not really any argument against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacebot View Post
    the point of going for the mastery was the amount of damage dread trash does - you can still time sotr with dread trash without going fully for haste but it'll reduce it more?
    Meh, my point is that paladins are made for taking dread thrases and SoTR + divine protection will trivialize the mechanic even without a dedicated mastery build. I would prefer haste for more DPS if i was able to play my paladin on that fight. This is my opinion though, don't have to agree with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teks View Post
    Meh, my point is that paladins are made for taking dread thrases and SoTR + divine protection will trivialize the mechanic even without a dedicated mastery build. I would prefer haste for more DPS if i was able to play my paladin on that fight. This is my opinion though, don't have to agree with it!
    On any fight where you do not have a problem surviving, haste will always be better. As long as you survive, the more dps is better. If the damage is trivial, it does not matter which stat is best for damage reduction.

    However for Sha, if you are having problems surviving, mastery will be better than haste, period. If you however do not have problem surviving the thrashes, haste is better due to the added dps. So you gotta think to yourself, is surviving a problem? And gear accordingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    So you gotta think to yourself, is surviving a problem? And gear accordingly.
    Basically this, which is what people seem to have forgotten. Haste is as much a dps stat as a survival stat but if you're going to take big hits which mastery can prevail on, once you no longer take too much damage courtesy of your mastery then why wouldn't you stack haste? Because at that point you've got your survival that you need then on top of that you're getting more dps and healing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    However for Sha, if you are having problems surviving, mastery will be better than haste, period.
    If you have trouble surviving it's either because you misstime your SotR and/or DP, or because you are undergeared for the encounter. This is my opinion from killing it on 10-man. I can't see how a paladin would ever die from dread thrash because of not enough mastery, instead i would say what will wipe your raid is the sheer length of the phase. So any way you can help in shortening it through personal DPS is probably a good way to go and not worry too much about the tank damage.

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    Well I have not done Sha of Fear HC so can't comment on the damage output really. Personally I will probably use haste, but I understand people going mastery.
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    Haste is fine for Sha normal, as long as you can time your ShotR you won't have a problem. Dunno 'bout heroic tho, still a few bosses away from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimord View Post
    Haste is fine for Sha normal, as long as you can time your ShotR you won't have a problem. Dunno 'bout heroic tho, still a few bosses away from that.
    Spirit is fine for any normal mode :P Stats really does not matter there.
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    At Sha I just hit Holy Avenger and don't need to worry about timing ShoR /shrug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    At Sha I just hit Holy Avenger and don't need to worry about timing ShoR /shrug.
    This so much.

    I love Sha of Fear, possibly the best fight, ever. You need to time everything accordingly, I love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimord View Post
    Haste is fine for Sha normal, as long as you can time your ShotR you won't have a problem. Dunno 'bout heroic tho, still a few bosses away from that.
    I'm still swimming in the shallow pool and have only just tanked Sha on LFR, but had read about timing your ShotR for thrashes. However, in LFR, I did not notice any thrashes nor get any DBM warnings (I'd read they would be shouted at me by DBM). Was I just being terribly unobservant (sadly, quite possible) or does Sha not thrash in LFR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by econ21 View Post
    I'm still swimming in the shallow pool and have only just tanked Sha on LFR, but had read about timing your ShotR for thrashes. However, in LFR, I did not notice any thrashes nor get any DBM warnings (I'd read they would be shouted at me by DBM). Was I just being terribly unobservant (sadly, quite possible) or does Sha not thrash in LFR?
    Not sure, I think I've only done it twice when LFR TES first came out, so I really don't remember. BUT what I do remember is that his hits in LFR were pretty weak.
    In Normal they can hit you pretty hard if you don't time your ShotR and since your healer(s) will already be busy healing all the dps standing getting hit by the adds, you'll really need to focus.

    In Normal (and I suppose Heroic too) you'll have a Thrash timer, yet it doesn't seem to be 'exactly' correct. I usually use my ShotR just as the timer expired, as using it a couple seconds early will often lead to you missing the Thrash (and it does hit decently, roughly the same as getting hit by a Garalon cleave without any defensive/shotr stuff up).

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    The timer on Thrash is when he has a chance of putting it up, not when he's going to use it. There's usually between 1.5-2 seconds from the announcement of the cooldown until he actually swings with it. Using the addon BossSwingTimer, you see exactly when he's going to hit you with it.



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