1. #1761
    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    *as long as the agility pieces aren't armour, as you would lose the Plate Spec Stamina bonus.
    I said in some cases But should have specified more. Yes, only applies for rings, necks and cloaks or agility pieces.
    Though agi/int being better than str is rare, but in this tier, quite a few of atleaset my own BiS list includes agi and int items.



    @Haxx and trinkets.
    It depends. As you said, the shado-pan dps trinket is better than the tank one.
    You simply have to look at the stats. If you are gearing up a new spec, get the ghost iron dragonling trinket (quotes and jokes incoming).
    It is stronger than every other trinket until atleast 522 ilvl, stamina trinkets excluded (hard to compare stamina and stat trinkets).
    So getting that ghost iron dragonling should be your first step if you haven't got it already.
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  2. #1762
    With haste/mastery/exp gems?

    Will do so tomorrow, thanks!

  3. #1763
    the best thing is to get hit+exp+haste/mastery gems into it depending on your gearing strategy. However, depending also on what gear you have, sometimes you are far over hit cap with your gear. Then it can instead be better to get exp/haste/mastery, but if you can fit a hit gem into it (and by extension, reforge more of your gear into haste/exp instead of hit), then it is worth it.
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  4. #1764
    I would try to reforge as much as you can for expertise and hit, because you can't reforge to stamina. But then I raid 25 mans, and use two stamina trinkets and have 710k life unbuffed. Although I would recommend doing the same for ten mans, because even though the damage intake isn't as rough as 25 man, it is still nice to be able to add more stamina without having to completely reforge every time as well.
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    Does someone of you know the name of the T15 2pc bonus?
    I want to track it with tellmewhen but can't find a buff or a hint how to track it.

  6. #1766
    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=138238#comments:id=1831627

    The wowhead comments say the buff event is called "Holy Shield". So try using that name as an identifier for the weakaura.
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  7. #1767
    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=138238#comments:id=1831627

    The wowhead comments say the buff event is called "Holy Shield". So try using that name as an identifier for the weakaura.
    That won't work. I tried that originally a while back, but someone else in the thread gave me a working WA string that gives you either an icon or bar (I just turned mine into a bar that says "BLOCK!" and ticks down).

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post20514338



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    Couldn't find under said spell id but found it in tellmewhen with the following id: 138242 called Shield of Glory!
    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=138242/prunkschild

    It's working nicely, maybe it also helps you with weakauras.
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  9. #1769
    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    (quotes and jokes incoming).
    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Change that steadfast dodge trinket with a ghost iron dragonling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    You simply have to look at the stats. If you are gearing up a new spec, get the ghost iron dragonling trinket.
    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    So getting that ghost iron dragonling should be your first step if you haven't got it already.


    Sorry mods, but I feel its appropriate

    Holy, Sacred, Bubble etc.

  10. #1770
    Not really raiding related, but did anyone try to do rank 8 bosses as prot ? I've had no problems clearing up to battletron as prot (died once on dark summoner because initially avoided too much dmg and had basically no veng, which i quickly fixed). But had to switch ret for battletron.

    Looking at rank 8 bosses, i haven't gotten to even try epicus (hurray for rng), but it seems like Millhouse is impossible, Zen'shar also impossible, and disrupton somewhat possible.

  11. #1771
    I've done up to Rank 4 as prot and then lost interest. Not that I couldn't do it, I just wasn't having fun.
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    I'm wondering if 522/528 healing shield from Tortos is better than 489 one from Spirit Kings. Since all our healers already got theirs, I was thinking about taking one if it drops this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by celinamuna View Post
    Not really raiding related, but did anyone try to do rank 8 bosses as prot ? I've had no problems clearing up to battletron as prot (died once on dark summoner because initially avoided too much dmg and had basically no veng, which i quickly fixed). But had to switch ret for battletron.

    Looking at rank 8 bosses, i haven't gotten to even try epicus (hurray for rng), but it seems like Millhouse is impossible, Zen'shar also impossible, and disrupton somewhat possible.
    Just got to rank 8 a couple of days ago, but epicus seems like you just need to have mad dodge skillz. Starting to get the hang of Millhouse, butit largely depends also on where he places the beam things. Zen'shar - haven't figured out what he does yet, and haven't gotten disrupton so far.

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  14. #1774
    Hmmpfs... Got a question. Im netting around 2300 haste from using ghost iron dragonling over darkmist vortex (normal) which one do you guys reckon I should use for dps?

  15. #1775
    Quote Originally Posted by Lethora View Post
    I'm wondering if 522/528 healing shield from Tortos is better than 489 one from Spirit Kings. Since all our healers already got theirs, I was thinking about taking one if it drops this week.
    Yup, pick that shield up over SK shield, the tortos shield is actually BiS if you care about a MAX haste build.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jouten View Post
    Hmmpfs... Got a question. Im netting around 2300 haste from using ghost iron dragonling over darkmist vortex (normal) which one do you guys reckon I should use for dps?
    For dps, dragonling, 2300 static haste will feel a lot better than a 7k haste proc every 105 seconds.
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  16. #1776
    Yeah I guess I'll try it out with the dragonling for a while, maybe I get lucky with the heroic thunderforged spark on sunday on horridon

  17. #1777
    Quote Originally Posted by Lethora View Post
    I'm wondering if 522/528 healing shield from Tortos is better than 489 one from Spirit Kings. Since all our healers already got theirs, I was thinking about taking one if it drops this week.
    Yes. I am using it. I am using it now, and I was using the gara'jal shield in T14.
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  18. #1778
    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Yes. I am using it. I am using it now, and I was using the gara'jal shield in T14.
    Hasn't dropped yet, and the healers are ahead of me in DKP :/
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  19. #1779
    So using the healer shield over the other 3 actual tank shields is a good choice? 200 haste gain vs the loss of 788 str? the sp from int is equal or?

  20. #1780
    Quote Originally Posted by Jouten View Post
    So using the healer shield over the other 3 actual tank shields is a good choice? 200 haste gain vs the loss of 788 str? the sp from int is equal or?

    Don't get spell power from Int any more. Read the Guarded by the Light tool-tip. Spell Power = Attack Power/2

    If you are tanking with 170-230k AP that is fluctuating all the time, do you really think anybody is going to notice if you have 1600 AP more or less?
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