[MoP] Protection Paladin Guide

[pld]

I finally got Feather the other night and I'm currently running Spark (530) and Feather (543) - replacing SPA.

I haven't noticed much of a DPS increase after the swap. How much should I be expected to see? We've only done a handful of fights since I got the new trinket so it's a very small sample size, but just curious.

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I've yet to see a single Spark drop. Only one dropped back when we still killed him on normal and the DK took it. And he doesn't even raid anymore. Not once did it drop in Heroic, though.

I HATE EVERYONE.

[pld]

I've yet to see a single Spark drop. Only one dropped back when we still killed him on normal and the DK took it. And he doesn't even raid anymore. Not once did it drop in Heroic, though.

I HATE EVERYONE.

It took 2-3 months before I saw Spark drop (via extra roll). The first time it dropped, our warrior took it....only to never use it after a week.

The first time heroic Feather dropped, our DK took it....only to switch to his Mage. The second time heroic Feather dropped, our warrior took it. Fortunately I won it via extra roll. :|

TL;DR - stock up on those Lesser Charms, my friend.

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I HATE EVERYONE.

I second that. I still have T14 bracers. Heroic Thunderforged horridon bracers dropped once and a pug got them. FML.

[Promdates]

I HATE EVERYONE.

I guess this is a bad time to say I've had Normal, Normal+TF, Heroic, and finally HTF Sparks? :x

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I guess this is a bad time to say I've had Normal, Normal+TF, Heroic, and finally HTF Sparks? :x

I curse thee with the Curse of DodgeParryGear! No more haste shall touch thine filthy hands!

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It also scaled with haste in the last iteration... just sayin.

i thought they made judgment cd reduce by 100% in the last iteration....

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i thought they made judgment cd reduce by 100% in the last iteration....

It did but just because judgement is reduced by 100% doesnt mean you get a 1s global, so it still scaled with haste.

[Sunnydee]

so i just got heroic axe from jinrokh and heroic spark. no idea wich one i should upgrade first since i can only upgrade 1 more item this week.

[Aceshigh]

I'd go with Spark.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Definitely the spark.

[Promdates]

The weapon should probably be the last thing you upgrade, as for us it's not a huge increase.

[xebtria]

I use theck's weakaura string for that:

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thanks a lot, works like a charm. not an award winning design, but does 100% what I expect it to do.

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Guys, is the healer shield from Tortos still the best we can use (remember reading about it)? It dropped last night and since nobody wanted it I took it to try it out, though I won't be able to do so until tomorrow night (when I get home later today after work I'll just have dinner and log in to raid >.<) so huh... Should I use it? And yea, I know this has been talked about but I really forgot what was said and I can't seem to find it.

I'm talking about this shield, btw: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/item/96436

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I can only speak for myself.
I upgraded my http://www.wowdb.com/items/90575 with http://www.wowdb.com/items/94778 - got it per bonus roll. our elemental shaman was crying like a little bitch.
that being said, even if it is not better in direct comparison on the same itemlevel, I am still pretty sure that it IS better than the 476 one, isn't it?
on the same time, I replaced my ret T chest 522 with heroic thunderforged jinrokh chest. I have to say I lost quite some haste with that exchange.... plus I am at 8.5% hit now with nothing more to reforge...

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Guys, is the healer shield from Tortos still the best we can use (remember reading about it)? It dropped last night and since nobody wanted it I took it to try it out, though I won't be able to do so until tomorrow night (when I get home later today after work I'll just have dinner and log in to raid >.<) so huh... Should I use it? And yea, I know this has been talked about but I really forgot what was said and I can't seem to find it.

I'm talking about this shield, btw: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/item/96436

What is your other option?

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even if it is not better in direct comparison on the same itemlevel, I am still pretty sure that it IS better than the 476 one, isn't it?..

It is for sure better than any 476 shields, it is undeniably better than any 510 shield. If it is better than all the other 522 shields is a matter of opinion, one that I would support atleast. It all boils down to how highly you value dodge/parry. I value them at 0 which makes the int shield BiS in my opinion, however if you have a high value on dodge and parry you could consider the other chests better.




Edit: So if we actually check the shields available and compare what the differences between those shields are, removing all common stats between the shields.

Tortos' Discarded Shell

+277 Haste
+270 Stat of your choice
+900 Int


Greatshield of the Gloaming

+373 Dodge
+599 Mastery
+900 Str


Ultimate Protection of the Emperor

+383 Parry
+6 Haste
+557 Mastery
+900 Str


It all comes down to how much you value dodge, parry and mastery.

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It did but just because judgement is reduced by 100% doesnt mean you get a 1s global, so it still scaled with haste.

aha - too true

on another note - can someone please type out the legendary cloak stats/procs from front page (tank and melee dps) - my work's internet security blocks me looking at them :/

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What is your other option?

It's the one I have equipped in the armory atm: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/item/96140

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It's the one I have equipped in the armory atm: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/item/96140

I would equip the 535 int shield over 528 str shield, the other way around would have been a harder choice.

You are trading stamina, armor, haste + reforgable stat (probably expertise), int vs Str, Dodge/parry + mastery

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http://www.wowdb.com/items/94778 - got it per bonus roll...

That's not a bad idea. I normally have my loot spec as ret but should try to remember to go holy for Tortos. (Sadly my guild hasn't reached Durumu yet, so I have no chance at a 522 strength shield).