Who said anything about a 483?
Or anything about trade chat?
Seriously, wtf are you on about?
I feel like we need to make a "Drummerboy random musings" thread, where you can discuss whatever it is you're trying to hash out in a safe, controlled environment. Put it in some other forum, where you're not cluttering up the ADVICE thread with what can only be described with as, at best, bad advice, and at worst, some sort of schizophrenic dancing around any actual coherent discussion.