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    No 2H enchants in MoP

    Does this stay as it is, or is it just assumed that the 1H would work on both?

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    I would have to look but usually 1h enchants are enchant weapon - XXXNAME and 2 h is enchant 2 hand weapon -YYYNAME, and the 1hand enchant has no restrictions (They're not classified as 1 h weapon enchants, just weapon enchants)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fateswarm View Post
    Does this stay as it is, or is it just assumed that the 1H would work on both?
    Just the same as currently live...

    Enchant Weapon can be applied to 1H or 2H.

    Landslide is the go-to enchant for Ret/Arms/Fury/Feral (DPS), all using 2H weapons, but is also used by Rogue/Shaman.

    The last 2H enchant i saw, was the +Spell Power to Staves, from WotLK. There hasn't been a single Enchant 2H Weapon enchant since then, so seems kind of a moot point to even bring up.
    Last edited by ZeroEdgeir; 2012-07-28 at 06:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroEdgeir View Post
    The last 2H enchant i saw, was the +Spell Power to Staves, from WotLK. There hasn't been a single Enchant 2H Weapon enchant since then, so seems kind of a moot point to even bring up.
    Someone obviously doesn't play a hunter or a feral druid. Or know anything about them. Or have an enchanter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fateswarm View Post
    Does this stay as it is, or is it just assumed that the 1H would work on both?
    Because they broke them down into a general Enchant weapon with:...

    The current agility enchant will be gone since huntards won't use it and the Druid feral one will just work with the melee one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miralynn View Post
    Someone obviously doesn't play a hunter or a feral druid. Or know anything about them. Or have an enchanter.

    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=95471/
    Hunter, yeah, fine, I missed it for them. For a Bear Druid, sure, I agree. But would the 130 Agility trump the proc of 1000 AP for a Cat Druid, doubtful. Either way, that enchant itself is another anomaly.

    Hunters no longer use melee weapons period. Druids will be using the same ones the rest of us do for MoP.

    Tanks: http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104440 or http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104442
    DPS: http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104425 or http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104434
    Casters/Healer: http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104425 or http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104427
    Leveling and replacing weapon soon: http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104430 (I'd say it might need theory-crafting to see if Enhancement can make better use of this, cause the proc is Fire, Frost, and Nature damage, but I doubt it will break Windsong or Dancing Steel... ever.)
    Last edited by ZeroEdgeir; 2012-07-28 at 06:17 PM.

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    So basically Staves are going to be useless again for casters, as a 1-hand weapon + offhand will be better 100% of the time due to enchants.

    Glad to see Blizzard really learns from their mistakes. Makes me sad, because I know if the Devs actually played their own game they would realize stuff like this, as people have been complaining about it since the beginning of Cata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroEdgeir View Post
    Hunter, yeah, fine, I missed it for them. For a Bear Druid, sure, I agree. But would the 130 Agility trump the proc of 1000 AP for a Cat Druid, doubtful. Either way, that enchant itself is another anomaly.

    Hunters no longer use melee weapons period. Druids will be using the same ones the rest of us do for MoP.

    Tanks: http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104440 or http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104442
    DPS: http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104425 or http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104434
    Casters/Healer: http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104425 or http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104427
    Leveling and replacing weapon soon: http://mop.wowhead.com/spell=104430 (I'd say it might need theory-crafting to see if Enhancement can make better use of this, cause the proc is Fire, Frost, and Nature damage, but I doubt it will break Windsong or Dancing Steel... ever.)
    Oh, I agree on that point, I was just saying as far as your statement (quoted in my post before you edited yours) that no 2h enchants existed in Cata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mammoon View Post
    So basically Staves are going to be useless again for casters, as a 1-hand weapon + offhand will be better 100% of the time due to enchants.

    Glad to see Blizzard really learns from their mistakes. Makes me sad, because I know if the Devs actually played their own game they would realize stuff like this, as people have been complaining about it since the beginning of Cata.
    Seems that way, unless staves end up with a MUCH higher stat budget per ilvl than 1h+OH. If that's going to be the case, I really wish they'd make some caster swords, axes, any damn thing but daggers and maces, because I'm sick of looking at daggers and maces.
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    There are wands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorend View Post
    There are wands
    As long as they start giving them more interesting models than 'slightly glowy twig' or 'random skull on a twig #5645' that might be OK. I'm just tired to death of always being stuck with daggers. And ugly daggers, to boot. The Pizza Slicer of Doom from Endtime was actually a very cool thing, it at least allowed me to find a cool axe to mog on my shaman. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miralynn View Post
    Seems that way, unless staves end up with a MUCH higher stat budget per ilvl than 1h+OH. If that's going to be the case, I really wish they'd make some caster swords, axes, any damn thing but daggers and maces, because I'm sick of looking at daggers and maces.
    And it was done with the orange staff.

    TBH, I actually found that discrepancy fun. "2H? You're suboptimal! Farm for that off-hand now".

    Besides, Tier 11 was spamming off hands and 1 handers compared to 2Hers.

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    I prefer to use a staff over 1h and off hand, but i haven't been able to very often because of the cata enchants. I hope they rethink the MoP enchants a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroEdgeir View Post
    But would the 130 Agility trump the proc of 1000 AP for a Cat Druid, doubtful.
    Mighty Agility is better than Landslide as feral DPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroEdgeir View Post
    But would the 130 Agility trump the proc of 1000 AP for a Cat Druid, doubtful. Either way, that enchant itself is another anomaly.
    130 Agility is ~50% better for feral dps, according to RAWR.

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