Because my like totally fashion is on the line. How could anyone ever see me express my eloquent thoughts on such a rubbish Lenovo. I demand that my fingers never grace over such a piece of garbage like a PC.
Why you so mad at people who pay a premium to check Facebook on an extremely well built computer? Are you also mad at people for driving a BMW instead of a Ford?
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Also, what you paid for, I could build an equivalent PC for $1200.
Congrats on bashing Windows. Are you mad that you overpaid and don't know how to use a PC? If you knew anything about the two OSs, you'd know how easy they are to maintain. Tbh, you sound like you're in your early 20s. I'd think that money is a big deal. I just think you made a horrible buy, ya know, because it's Mac.
Also I love people that compares Macs to a $400 Dell, Acer, or Lenovo laptop. But I am done with this thread. I guess I'm just too ignorant as to think I can actually have an intelligent mac vs. windows discussion.
The thing about Mac pricing is that it's not quite as extravagant as some people like to tell themselves (and anyone else unlucky enough to be in earshot of them).
For example, when the mid-2010 27" iMac refresh happened it was actually priced very competitively. At the time I was looking to buy a new main workstation and the only way I could get a similar (at-the-time-latest-gen (just released) CI7, 27" IPS monitor etc) setup for less than 90% of the iMac's price was if I bought parts from several different places and pretty much only looked at cycles/bytes per dollar. Any pre-built machines with comparable hardware + 27" IPS monitor came out to approximately the same as the iMac. So, I like OS X, not because I'm retarded, gay or blinded by fanboyism but because it's a modern UNIX operating system that requires very little tweaking or configuration. Yes, I bought that iMac, it still works like a charm and I have no regrets.
Now, had I waited a few months the iMac would still have had the same price while a DIY machine would've been a couple of hundred dollars cheaper but my point is, due to timing issues it was actually a good buy.
A lot of the younger gamers who complain about Macs also seem to make a few mistakes in their reasoning:
1) Their use case is everyone's use case. Not everyone only cares about bytes/cycles per dollar, there are other factors as well, including system integration which is something Macs are still much much better at than your average OEM Wintel machine.
2) That OS X is as locked down as iOS, simply not true in any way, it's definitely more open than Windows (if you are about to reply with some rant about how this statement proves I'm a brainwashed fanboy I'd like you to first investigate properly how much of Windows is open source, now compare this to OS X. Also, don't bring up Quicktime video, that's a long-dead format, Apple's defaults for video and audio these days are MPEG-4 and AAC. Oh yeah, and it's been quite a while since they were able to negotiate away the DRM from the music they sell through the iTunes store. And once again, we're talking about OS X, not iOS).
3) That anyone who owns a Mac is computer illiterate. Just go to any developer conference and look at the laptops used by professional developers there, it's very likely a very high percentage of them are using Macbook Pro laptops running OS X. This obviously isn't because developers are generally more computer illiterate than the average teenage gamer but because a modern UNIX system running on hardware it was specifically tailored to run on is attractive to developers and if you're making $75k/year or more and you buy a new laptop every couple of years then forking out another few hundred dollars for it to better fit what you want makes sense, after all, you're probably going to be using it for hours every day.
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I am the Kwisatz Haderach
my sager will destroy anything in apple's line in terms of performance (including the pro towers) but it doesn't come with the sturdy aluminium chassis, or nifty magnetic power cord, thats why i have both in my backpack, when i need convenience, i use my macbookpro, when i need to do anything productive, i use my sager
apple does have several advantages when it comes to software, many of the professional production software is free on macs, so depending on what you are doing, it may be cheaper to get a mac if the software you need is expensive
there is also the "macs don't get viruses" which is not true, the truth is "mac was almost dead so nobody bothered to write viruses for them" that is quickly changing, with 3 confirmed botnets existing on macs, and the worst security of any platform, apple has problems ahead, they are ten years behind everyone else in terms of security, but that doesn't stop people from feeling safe browsing the internet on them
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Now I'm curious, in which different ways is OS X "ten years behind everyone else"?
Not the dumbest and loudest users, those exist on every platform and they say nothing about the actual technical qualities of the platform, the actual operating system. How is it "ten years behind everyone else"?
I am the Kwisatz Haderach
if you spin a rainbow-colored circle paper fast enough you'll see it white
being every Apple's product white, they must be faster then every other product
back IT: it's just the brand, a tremendously overpriced brand...
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The people who do not care about byte/cycle per dollar typically will buy something as a status of "wealth" or "fashion." A computer is practical, not sexy. Trying to assume a computer is sexy easily means that you are overpaying for something that you shouldn't be.
All those "professional developers" is not very specific. I think it make more of a statement about how much money you make when you buy a Mac. Especially when you can show it off in public. Showing it off in public is why people buy it. I don't understand the need to "fit in" with people by showing off my status out in public. You don't see individuals with Lenovos or Toshibas showing off their case, even though the hardware is = to a Mac.
I don't think the difference in the metal casings is worth 2x the price. The only excuse I ever see coming from a Mac user as to why they didn't buy a PC is: "it's more user-friendly" or "it's better." Ya know, after the 6th year of using a "user-friendly" machine, I don't think it needs to be user friendly anymore.
Because Dj's use them and writers and architects and designers