A f2p mmo that is NOT p2w ... that is all we (= I and assuming everyone else) want :(

[Highangel]

I don't really care what business model it is, as long as i enjoy the content.
It can be Free to play, buy to play or subscripton based, as long as you don't get any advantage in the game from buying "ingame" items for real money any model is fine by me.

I think Wow is an example where they kinda stretches the limits for charging the consumers for items, services and so on... you have to buy the game, pay for a subscription, then you have to pay extra for server changes / faction change / character changes, also you can buy ingame items for real money and so on. Some of these things are optional ofc but still.

I currently playing the secret world and have lots of fun, i didn't really like GW2 but this has nothing to do with the business model, LoL for example is not my cup of tea either.

[Kuntantee]

DotA and DotA2 offers you the action without any kind of currency. All heroes are available in the game, you don't need to grind some stupid currency in order to enjoy the hero you like. I really think LoL has a crippled design for an action RTS game. If anything, DotA and DotA 2 are closer to perfection compared to LoL.

About the topic, I really don't mind subscription based model as long as I enjoy the game.

[Totori]

Can play EQ2 freely. The restrictions are not as dire as one may think. It only seems that way due to perception.

EQ1 restrictions make it almost unplayable as a F2P. You will not be effective or efficient as a F2P player. And EQ1 is super fucking grindy-- good luck getting through 19 expansions worth of content in one of the largest MMOs ever made.

You can do it! Do it do it do it! (Nah you're fucked).

EQ2's new expansion is coming up making everything prior to the unlocked for F2P, not sure how much that translates, but hey, there's a dungeon maker.

[Sj]

but hey, there's a dungeon maker.

I've always wanted to try it, but my motivation fails me! I need ways to punish my friends in ways I haven't done since Age of Empires 3.

[Terezar]

Not a be all end all explanation, but its a very comprehensive discussion on why pay to win doesn't work.
penny-arcade
com/patv/episode/microtransactions

[NSGamer]

If you loved Diablo 2, Path of Exile is looking very promising. Suppose to be full f2p and the passive skill tree looks simply awesome, it is enormous!

[Sevyvia]

League of Legends is , besides an awesome game, an example of how it SHOULD be done.
- All champions are available through IP ( game currency earned by playing) and it ISNT a grindfest
- Runes ( the only things that can give you a strong advantage) are not buyable with RP ( buyable currency)
- RP is only used for speeding up the rather trivial leveling ,getting champions faster and COSMETIC changes.

While it isn't an MMO, this sounds just like Tribes: Ascend.

[Ðuracell]

Tera is going F2P next month and isn't p2w at all. the only things you can buy are aesthetic things like mounts / item transmogs

[Kiru]

DCUO had a pretty decent F2P System, when I played it the only things on the store were cosmetics and expansion type content like new classes and missions added on to the game after it released. Not sure how it is now, that was a long time ago.

But LoL has the best system by far, despite not technically being an MMO. Doesn't take too long to unlock champions just by playing and the only things exclusive to the store are cosmetics like Skins and Icons.