[GW1] Hall of Monuments: Bite-size guide & Discussion

[Valeron]

Heh, my ranger was very unranger like. My favorite builds were all melee based with the ranger. For pvp though, I had a d-shot spam build.

If you have access to Factions then I'd say the best profession/build to use is a SS (spirit spammer) Ritualist

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Rt/any_Spirit_Spammer

[Fencers]

That was the best way to play a Ranger in GW1; melee.

Or as my hubby says, "Not really putting the range in Ranger." XD

[Lane]

What are your choices? Do you have all the "expansions?

Right now whatever comes with Prophecies/EOTN. We're probably not getting the other expansions unless there's a V-Day/Pres Day sale this weekend.

[Valeron]

Then I'd probably go with an Elementalist if you only have prophecies (eotn has no professions).

[Fencers]

Elementalist / Monk. It really can not get any more basic. Ignores like most of the need to understand the game systems.

Seriously, dude.

[Meledelion]

Elementalist's strongest skills don't come with eotn/proph. Necro is a safer bet imo

[Valeron]

Well honestly you can just let your heroes do the work. You can pretty much afk your way through vanquishing nowadays anyway.

[Fencers]

Heroes were the worst thing introduced in GW1. Destroyed the game in a certain sense. Henchies were on a different level than the heroes.

[Lane]

My bf and I finally got GW1. (Last night, so technically before the end of the month! ;P) We have no idea what we're doing. xD So, if anyone is still working towards HoM rewards and wants to group up sometime let me know!

Edit: Okay, well, for whatever reason it seems like the game as a whole didn't download. I'm having to keep d/ling content every time I zone into someplace new. Given my poor internet connection this could be a problem trying to play with others. x_X

[Valeron]

My bf and I finally got GW1. (Last night, so technically before the end of the month! ;P) We have no idea what we're doing. xD So, if anyone is still working towards HoM rewards and wants to group up sometime let me know!

Edit: Okay, well, for whatever reason it seems like the game as a whole didn't download. I'm having to keep d/ling content every time I zone into someplace new. Given my poor internet connection this could be a problem trying to play with others. x_X

It's setup to download the game that way. Each time you enter a new area it will download it piecemeal. There is an option to download the whole game at once though.

[rhandric]

launch the game with the -image option (I have a second shortcut for GW updates, that calls

"C:\Programs\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -image

specifically for downloading all the updates at once). If you have a slow connection, just launch that and leave it (ie overnight, when you go out, whatever). If you decide you want to stop downloading and just play, you can exit it at any time and it'll be in a clean state, allowing you to do so, and picking up where it left off next time you run it with the --image option.

[Kelesti]

That option is actually this:
Right click the icon, go to properties. In the "target" field, it should say something like:

"C:\Guild Wars\GW.exe"

You need to change this line to say this:

"C:\Guild Wars\GW.exe" -image

The launcher will run, download each and every single piece of data that's not in sync with the current version of the game, and update it as each piece is being downloaded, allowing you to get it done all at once. Once that is completed, the launcher will close, without launching the game (it's an update command, nothing more), so you will have to revert adding that -image tag after running it, but it gets you up to speed and it's pretty simple to do.

Edit: And as rhandric says, if you need to interrupt the updating function, all progress thus far is kept, it picks up where you left off when you run it again (It will go back to saying 0%, but that's for this session only, the number of files is the relevant part here).

[Lane]

Thanks, everyone. Got the full game downloaded now. I was surprised we got access to 3/6 pieces of the Heritage Armor* just for linking accounts, but now I'm wondering what's the quickest/easiest way to get another 3 points for the remaining 3 pieces? ;x

* My Asura elementalist (who I decided to keep and not delete) looks so much better now in Heritage cloth. So much light armor looks ghastly on Asuras, main reason I wanted to reroll.

[Deleted]

If you have Nightfall, go and find M.O.X. He can be put into the HoM immediately.

[rhandric]

If you have Nightfall, go and find M.O.X. He can be put into the HoM immediately.

You need all 3 campaigns (Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall) to get M.O.X. (and be level 10)

[Lane]

We only have Prophecies & EotN. Maybe we'll pick up the Trilogy if we find it on sale if only because I read you can't get 50/50 without it. (Though 30/50 is my goal right now.)

Doesn't look like there's a quick/easy way to get 3 points. Guess I need to find a HoM guide for n00bs/dummies. >_<

[Razael]

I'm looking for a deal on GW1 , all of them, to get the HoM stuff. Lost acess to my old account, none of the passwords i remember work, and to top it off i forgot to type down the NCsoft master account that went along with it. If any1 finds any legit places selling at a sale price please post here.

Oh and it has been way too long, assuming i buy all of em, which campaign should i start for maximum faceroll? Prophecies or Factions. I recall disliking the Nightfall one for some reason. And are any of these professions decent to start with respectively ? Assassin or Ritualist in Factions and Necromancer in Prophecies?

[Meledelion]

What is your goal? Is it 30/50 50/50 or x/50?
Are you thinking about going for GWAMM (since it caries over into GW2 and is one of the coolest titles tbh)?

Do you care at all about the storyline or do you want the quick points?

[Razael]

What is your goal? Is it 30/50 50/50 or x/50?
Are you thinking about going for GWAMM (since it caries over into GW2 and is one of the coolest titles tbh)?

Do you care at all about the storyline or do you want the quick points?

Currently aiming for 30/50. Don't care much about GWAMM tbh. While i do wanna experience the story (ive literally forgotten a big part of it, i was a kid when i originally played GW) , i wanna do it with the least amount of "difficulty" possible. I've heard people talk about how Heroes are OP and shiz, and make everything easier, and i'd like to play the "best" order of x-pacs possible, ill just tie up the stories chronologically for myself in the end.

[Meledelion]

KK, assuming you have all expansions here's a little "guide".

If you have the money IRL to buy the bonus packs and the pvp skill unlock pack, get them. This saves you the hassle of farming Balthazar faction to unlock elites for your heroes or having to cap them yourself.
If the story line isn’t important for you I suggest using various pages to help you the 2 best sites are: http://wiki.guildwars.com and http://www.gwpvx.com/PvX_wiki
The first gives general information about missions/quests and the second one gives builds.
Something obvious but handy, join a guild. It doesn’t really matter what kind of guild (Speed Clear (sc), title/HoM hunters or even a PvP guild) although title hunters are of course preferred.
Also do all daily quests you can. Namely the Zaishen Challenges and (once you actually can) the Wanted quests.
Since you’ll be crafting a lot of things (weapons/armor) I recommend to salvage items you find using the http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Salvage_Kit unless you think you’ll get http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Wood_plank from them (in general bows and staves) until you get atleast two or three stacks of that material (unless you know it gives http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Granite_Slab , you’ll need loads of that ). Once you have enough of these start using http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Expert_salvage_kit to get rare materials.
Deciding what armour to buy isn’t easy however check what materials are needed for the armour you like and stack up on those mats.
Getting good weapons can be an issue, but since the introduction of Unique(green) weapons it’s become very easy and cheap to obtain them, don’t go out of your way for these though.
Storage! Basicly I sugest dropping your money in storage regularly. A mule character can be very useful aswell (make another toon in NF play it until you get acces to the storage and drop items on that toon from your storage to keep your storage clutter free).


Money! DO NOT IDENTIFY RARE(gold) WEAPONS, just drop them in your storage. They sell to other players for 700g/unidentified no matter what skin. Identifying “armor remnants” is something I recommend doing since Runes are very handy if you get them unlocked and if you can’t use them one of your heroes probably can.

Setting up:
I’ve personally done all Hard modes with Heroes and Henchmen (there used to be a limit of 3heroes/person) but since the update I’m now running the Triple Necromancer + Double Ritualist +1 Monk and either another Monk or an elementalist. The builds are:
http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Team_-_3_Hero_Discordway
http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Team_-_2_...t_Hero_Midline
http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Mo/Me_Unyielding_Aura_Healer
http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:E/any_PvP_SH_Elementalist
(I took Meteor Shower (but disabled self use for heroes) and Aura of Restoration, Searing Flames is also a great option as an elite)
http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Team_-_7_Hero_Discordway is a very popular team build as well.
However do note that you won’t have access to Ritualists (RT) until the late game. And getting elites isn’t that easy either. However there are some ways to attain them easily. Once you get access to http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Battle_Isles you can farm Balthazar Faction to unlock the elite spells of your choice (hint Discord and all other elites mentioned in those builds) by doing http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Team_Trials. Or you can just buy Zaishen Keys with them and sell them. Visit http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hero_skill_trainer for unlocking specific non-elite spells.

If you don't have acces to the desired heroes bring casters first, it doesn't really matter what profession as long as they're ranged you should be OK. This also counts for when you have more party spots than heroes, fill up your party with henchmen and make sure you have monks (healers) and elementalists with you after that fill up with other casters.
The reason why elementalists are prefered over other casters is because their bars are good from the get go, while necromancers/mesmers's AI seems to be clunky.

The most powerful tool is being able to micromanage your heroes. Under the options>controls tab you can bind hero skills/flagging. An easy way to bind skills is to set the skills you need/want to micro to the number 1slot on each hero and then bind hero 1 use skill 1 to E.G. Shift+1 and hero 2 use skill 1 to Shift+2 (and so on).
Do mind that if you micro Discord and hit Shift+1-2-3 and the target dies before one of your heroes casted discord, that hero won't do anything else untill he can cast it on another foe.
Also, always cary a http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Longbow or a http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Flatbow for pulling mobs.

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Now, let’s get going:
I recommend starting off in Nightfall (NF) and to start with a ranged class, ofcourse you don’t have to but it’s a little easier. If I’m allowed to be bold I’ll even say pick a Necromancer a Mesmer or an Elementalist (in that order), as a secondary go x/R(anger) or R/x so you don’t have to waste time/money on changing your secondary profession once you want to tame some pets and dedicate them.
The reason why Ritualist isn't on this list is that heroes can run rits pretty good and there aren't any alternatives as good as this one.

I won't go into detail regarding missions since the sites I listed before have all the information you need however, if you find that doesn't suffice feel free to PM me and I'll explain it in depth or help depending on my schedule.
In NF you sometimes have to choose between 2heroes. At the start you’ll get to pick between Acolyte Jinn (Ranger) and Acolyte Sousuke (Elementalist), Pick Sousuke.
Later you get to pick between Master of Whispers (Nec) and Margrid the Sly(R), pick Master.
And once you reach Vabi Norgu and Goren are available, pick Norgu.
Since it should be clear that I’ll be sending you across the world instead of letting you finish up NF first, I’ll explain why. The builds I linked earlier require certain professions and sadly enough you don’t just get them at the start so we’ll be picking them up.
I take it you’ve started off in NF as suggested; now play the game until you reach http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Consu..._%28outpost%29 also do this mission. You should be able to pick up Olias in Consulate Docks but more importantly you can unlock travel to http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Lion%27s_arch and max armor.
Most missions and bonuses work very well together, however if an objective is too dificult to do and to finish the mission at the same time I sugest skipping the bonus and doing it at a later time. This obviously won't work for escort person A to the end missions nor for do this mission within X amount of time.
In http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Kamadan,_Jewel_of_Istan talk to http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Bendah so you can now start to venture to GW:EN.
Do the quests up here until you reach the actual http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Eye_o..._%28outpost%29 this is also where you find the http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hall_of_Monuments. Now start with this quest http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Knowledgeable_Asura and keep going until Livia (Nec) joins your party.
Since you now have most useful heroes go back to NF and finish everything up, at the end of NF remember to talk to all the heroes who you didn’t pick before so they also become available to you. Whenever you pass a http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Challenge_Mission make sure to try a couple of times so you get enough remnants for your heroes.

When you reach http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Gunnar%27s_Hold make sure to do the http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Norn_Fighting_Tournament untill you get http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zho%27s_Journal which leads to the http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Black_Moa_Chick, note that you’ll need following items so make sure to store them safely if you obtain them randomly: 5 Skree Wings, 5 Bog Skale Fins and one Honey Comb.
By defeating Kahmu and Xandra in the tournament you'll unlock those aswell we're mainly after http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Xandra.
After having completed GW:EN you can start the War In Kryta (wik) quest chain and obtain your first Oppressor Weapon.
When going through GW:EN hold on to your storybooks, do not turn them in until you’re at the end of r7 of the title you want (best to not grab norn/delver since they’re easy to farm). Since at r8 you no longer get rep from normal modes. And hang on to whatever consumables you might get. I also sugest NOT doing any Vanquish runs nor Hardmode missions or any other secondary quest since you'll get reputation from those after r8 whilst you won't from normal mode.

Now you’re ready to go do whatever campaign you want, personally I hated factions the most so after having had fun in NF and GW:EN I’d go there, you can get your moral up in prophecies later

Factions can be icky if you rush headlong into things. One of the main things is to pull carefully. Factions is packed with “pop-up” groups and ritualists are quite strong which makes 3+groups hard to handle. Ofcourse when going for master you'll have to chain pull a bit. however since the afflicted explode, this can be a pain to heal especially if you've got togo/mhenlo with you and you kill loads of people at the same time.
The main issue with factions is that you need a bit of everything in almost every mission. You'll need burst healing, aoe healing, condition removal and hex removal.
At the kurzick side you can get the quest to get the Black Moa, if you complete the quest (kill the Black Moa) you can tame one after you've turned in the quest.
Prophecies is the longest campaign mission wise. Also the later missions tend to get lengthy and easily take up 45+ min. Certain missions have really anoying bonusses so it might be easier to do those another time. One of the missions that comes to mind is http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Aurora_Glade.
Most maps are also quite big so bringing http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Fall_back on one or two of your heroes is handy.
A crucial thing in the http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Iron_Mines_of_Moladune mission is to get your armor infused. You can do the mission without infused armor but the following ones aren't that forgiving. In the Shiverpeaks (both Northern and Southern) bringing fire elementalists can be very usefull due to ice foes taking extra damage.

If you find a runner (someone who basically runs from point A to point B while you sit back and relax) it is possible to ignore 99% of prophecies. You'll need someone to run you to Droknar's Forge. From there people can run you to the last mission in the Southern Shiverpeaks so you can go straight to The Ring Of Fire Islands, you'll have to do all these missions though.