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    No lightning bolt while moving

    So... No lightning bolt while moving !?!?!?

    Death of progression elemental raiding... oh, and the real kicker, warlocks get to keep theirs???

    Seems like blizzard has forgot why they put it in in the first place, with elemental being dead last until its inclusion, and almost last since then... what an idiotic move.

    For Warlords of Draenor, we're pulling back on the ability for many casters to deal damage while moving, and that includes Elemental.

    Warlocks keep their casting while moving, which they got after us and dont need. Yet we can't get their extra crit damage scaling which we need because 'they had it first and flavour'.

    This class performed abysmally before moving lightning bolt, nothing has changed with the other skills to change that. The class will not be viable for progression raiding unless significant changes are made. Please blizzard dont make me reroll to a class i don't like to not hold back my raid group.
    Last edited by desert-wind; 2014-04-04 at 06:21 AM.

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    The sky is falling already? Damn, it's only been, what two hours?

    Relax, they said they'll balance around this (recent tweet, not gonna bother looking for it) and everyone's getting the Arcane mage treatment (less movement).

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    Warlocks at least have to talent into theirs rather than having it baseline but I would expect to see Kiljaeden's Cunning just get turned into SWG if too many Warlocks are using it. Maybe Shaman can get a talent that returns LB to a mobile cast at the opportunity cost of the other talents in the tier, at least.

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    Well, they mentioned that they wanted to make every secondary stat equally useful - which includes crit for elemental.. wasn't even mentioned in their blogs.
    Most people do not realize the talent and skill it requires to be in a top guild. Many of you think its only about time invested, but that couldn't be further from the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UcanDoSht View Post
    Well, they mentioned that they wanted to make every secondary stat equally useful - which includes crit for elemental.. wasn't even mentioned in their blogs.
    This is so boring. Wtf is blizz doing? They're taking all of the flavor out of the game. No more dot snapshotting, no thresholds, now we got all stats equal. This game is moving to grey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desert-wind View Post
    So... No lightning bolt while moving !?!?!?

    Death of progression elemental raiding... oh, and the real kicker, warlocks get to keep theirs???

    Seems like blizzard has forgot why they put it in in the first place, with elemental being dead last until its inclusion, and almost last since then... what an idiotic move.

    For Warlords of Draenor, we're pulling back on the ability for many casters to deal damage while moving, and that includes Elemental.

    Warlocks keep their casting while moving, which they got after us and dont need. Yet we can't get their extra crit damage scaling which we need because 'they had it first and flavour'.

    This class performed abysmally before moving lightning bolt, nothing has changed with the other skills to change that. The class will not be viable for progression raiding unless significant changes are made. Please blizzard dont make me reroll to a class i don't like to not hold back my raid group.
    Elemental isn't dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desert-wind View Post
    oh, and the real kicker, warlocks get to keep theirs???
    Warlocks are a L90 TALENT that we take over other things. You have a spell to use (also baseline) that allows you to cast and move. I'm not seeing the problem, frankly.


    Warlocks keep their casting while moving, which they got after us and dont need.
    What shall Warlocks do instead, then? Read Heat mag whilst moving?
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    I'll probably stick to my hunter and melee classes (and probably go enhance on the shaman), I'm really not a fan of gutting movement for casters especially since it seemed to have mostly been due to pvp, not being able to press anything unless you pray for procs at certain times because you have to move is just boring and uninteresting gameplay imho

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    I am sad about this change although it won't stop me playing my ele shaman

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    They removed it because they want the only people able to do their whole DPS rotation while moving to be melee.
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    Elemental can't use it's whole rotation while moving. They put in this change originally to counteract the fact that elemental was unplayable. Nothing else has changed with the class and they're reverting the change. They've stated they're not reworking classes, and without a rework elemental does not work for progression without moving lightning bolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollfat View Post
    They removed it because they want the only people able to do their whole DPS rotation while moving to be melee.
    Yes, just as Hunters.... OH WAIT.

    Elemental and Warlocks are only able to cast their filler SPELL while moving.
    Most people do not realize the talent and skill it requires to be in a top guild. Many of you think its only about time invested, but that couldn't be further from the truth.

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    Elemental is turning more and more into a cleave/bomb only class with the buff to chain lightning. Which is fun when you absolutely destroy ppl in fights like galakras, but not so fun when you get your ass handed to you in single target fights...

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    They just removed the one enjoyable thing about being an elemental in my book. I'm sure we'll be again the most boring, simple, helpless charakter in the game.... Yea!!! We're gunturrets all over again;( What a crapgame is this becoming...

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    So because we've got to stand still to cast (like with Lava Burst, Chain Lightning, Elemental Blast etc) lightning bolt, it's now going to be boring? I fail to see this. Doomsday threads are starting and these are ALPHA notes.

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    Why are some people think this is new. They said since Blizzcon, we were going to lose the sub-ability to cast LB while moving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degreln View Post
    So because we've got to stand still to cast (like with Lava Burst, Chain Lightning, Elemental Blast etc) lightning bolt, it's now going to be boring? I fail to see this. Doomsday threads are starting and these are ALPHA notes.
    It's just part of dumbing this game to absolutly ridiculous levels..... We just need to stand still in order melee would be able to succesfully bash our heads in... To much skillcap for killing a moving target i guess

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    Elemental shamans existed long before lightning bolt could be cast on the move. Personally I welcome the reason to get rid of my cancel cast macro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xynen View Post
    Elemental shamans existed long before lightning bolt could be cast on the move. Personally I welcome the reason to get rid of my cancel cast macro.
    Now you'll have another one; every time you're forced to move it will cut off your spellcasting. Enjoy

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