Would you support a real world Dexter? (spoilers maybe)

[Lumocolor]

id be fine with it

Short and sweet and i agree.

The more the merrier, everyone who kills should be killed and since all the "Dexters" would themselves be killers they can hunt themselves too for all i care, as long as the crime rate against innocent people goes down to 0.

[Deleted]

No. The justice system exists for a reason. People like this are exactly why it exists.

I don't understand the modern fascination with murderous vigilante justice. Used to be we liked vigilantes, but they would work with police to capture, not kill an evil-doer and then arrest them. I get that's not reflective of "real life", but I thought these sorts of fantasies were supposed to aspire to higher ideas, not lower ones.

The justice system kills innocents to be honest.

In the case of a Dexter, I'm talking about DNA/blood evidence being needed. Dexter knows they are murderers because he is a blood/forensic specialist, not to mention he has the mind of a killer himself, he can read them like a book, its like looking into the mirror. The only difference is alongside his mirror image is his code which he reads before doing anything.

The Justice System kills far more innocent people than any real world Dexter would.

[Citizen T]

What's wrong with there being a genius kid with a secret laboratory beneath his house?

oh wait...

[Shoukyaku]

Short and sweet and i agree.

The more the merrier, everyone who kills should be killed and since all the "Dexters" would themselves be killers they can hunt themselves too for all i care, as long as the crime rate against innocent people goes down to 0.

Yeah I pretty much laugh at all of the under 30 sand in their cooter ubernerds in topics such as this that come out of the wood world and their modern liberal views with "NO! RAWR! THAT IS SO WRONG! THIS IS WHY WE HAVE DUE PROCESS AND TRIALS! RAWR!" Get bent seriously. Him being a judge jury and executioner is NO DIFFERENT than another HUMAN being appointed judge jury and executioner by other HUMANS. So hell yes I would support a man like that in real life. Ridding the world of scum one night at a time (most of whom would get reduced sentences under a technicality) AND save the taxpayers valuable dinero that would otherwise be wasted on someone whom would get away with murder and if they didnt sit on death row for 22 years wasting even more money. If you think anything otherwise, welp people like you and those of your like mindedness are the reason people get off the hook EVERY DAY of their heinous crimes on technicalities.

[Deleted]

Jail is a heavy burden compared to just being killed....

Nonsense. No one knows what death is like so its stupid to compare. Its like comparing cars now and cars in 2100 when we don't know anything about such a thing.

While in jail the boredom is crushing every part of you, you are stuck with ur mind (some of them feels guilty all their lives), you are forced to live with criminals that might be a lot more dangerous than you, forced to live with the fear of being backstabbed for you money, you are forced to hold you soap REALLY CAREFULLY (lol).

They get used to the boredom and the only ones who feel guilty and say so are because they got caught. They feel bad because they got caught. They wouldn't give two hoots if they were free. Also, all of that nonsense of prison being a really bad place is just that, nonsense. Only in really ill managed prisons are such things a common occurrence or in bent prisons, all of which are normally used on TV. In well managed prisons criminals are protected because if they're not people are losing their jobs and possibly facing punishment themselves.

Killing them.... they will suffer a lot yeah but only for few minutes and then hes gone.

No one knows what death is like so again, its a stupid comparison.

Criminals suffers more in jail than being killed. Sure some criminals play with laws and get out of jail sooner then they should but thats not a problem with the jail itself.... its the stupid laws. You shud get jailed for life if you took some1's life.

There is no conclusive proof that criminals suffer more in jail than they would if they were killed. Many criminals go to prison and it don't bother them, do their time, get out, act like nothing happened. Oh, and the ones gloating to the TV about how they're sorry, its all for the camera's, it's selfish actions kicking in so the weak in society feel sorry for these people and because of all the soft touch liberalist idiots in society it works. Lets hug them, after all, it ain't your daughter this guy has stabbed multiple times...

Why do so many criminals choose life over execution? They fear execution and life is the better option for them. Only rare, extreme cases, prefer death and thats often in insecure and corrupt prisons where they are victimised many times and put through hell, which in my opinion they deserve. Only then, do they commit suicide in their cells or claim they want to die, its a cry for help.

In most cases however, they don't want death row and many lifers have wet themselves when facing the death penalty. Its human nature to fear death, try and strangle your dog and see how it reacts. Mammals want to survive.

[Belloc]

So, even though said criminals are likely to be tried and found guilty fairly by society, he just kills them anyway to satisfy his own needs and urges?

Apart from some tax dollars being saved, I have a lot of issues with this.

Most of his victims are people who the law has failed to punish. Remember, he works for the police -- he is directly involved in the process of putting these people away. When the system fails, he steps in.

Of course, he doesn't always wait for the justice system to do it's thing.

He has killed innocents before, though those were accidents or uncontrolled rage (and I'm not about to spoil that particular detail).

Dexter really is a good man, but I couldn't support him. His failings have cost innocent lives.

[TEHPALLYTANK]

No. I have realistic expectations of humanity, but I also happen to have hope in humanity as well.

[Adam Jensen]

No.

We have courts and laws for a reason. They may be imperfect, but it sure as hell beats vigilantism. Who put Dexter in charge?

Though, Dexter is a character I'd probably enjoy watching on TV (I've never seen the show but if I got HBO, maybe I'd try it out) and root for. But that's not real life.

[Deleted]

Most of his victims are people who the law has failed to punish. Remember, he works for the police -- he is directly involved in the process of putting these people away. When the system fails, he steps in.

Of course, he doesn't always wait for the justice system to do it's thing.

He has killed innocents before, though those were accidents or uncontrolled rage (and I'm not about to spoil that particular detail).

Dexter really is a good man, but I couldn't support him. His failings have cost innocent lives.

Like the failings of the justice system?

The justice system releases murderers who reoffend which is a failure on society.
The justice system fails to properly convict murderers meaning they get off free and in the future commit more murders/crime which is a failure on society.

Whatever way you look at it, the justice system fails society in more ways than Dexter ever could. Dexter may kill the odd innocent here and there which is extremely rare but the justice system has so much blood on its hands its ridiculous.

http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...1634-31338172/

Thats just one story which took about 5 seconds to find of method one in which the justice system fails society and it leads to death.

Dexter wouldn't be as sloppy as a system that is being ripped open by lawyers paid to do so and liberalists with human rights bullshit who think murderers deserve the same respect as someone who has contributed a lot to the world like Steve Jobs. In liberalists eyes, humans are humans, regardless of their doing.

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No.

We have courts and laws for a reason. They may be imperfect, but it sure as hell beats vigilantism. Who put Dexter in charge?

Though, Dexter is a character I'd probably enjoy watching on TV (I've never seen the show but if I got HBO, maybe I'd try it out) and root for. But that's not real life.

No it doesn't at all. Prove that it does. The judicial system fails people in ways some people cannot logically fathom.

If a murderer is convicted and given 14 years then comes out and murders, the victim was failed by the judicial system.

If a murderer is found out by Dexter to be a murderer and is killed, he cannot go to prison and be released and the victim cannot be failed.

In that instance, Dexter has done good whereas the judicial system is wrong.

As Dexter is part of the system that helps convict murderers, one of the most important parts in fact, he is likely to be very accurate in his killings.

If anything, Dexter would be more accurate in his workings than a judicial system with more holes in it than your average sieve.

[Deleted]

Nonsense. No one knows what death is like so its stupid to compare. Its like comparing cars now and cars in 2100 when we don't know anything about such a thing.

Implying a soul exist.

[jbombard]

I wouldn't support him, but I'd be happy he was out there. Dexter does what he does, knowing that if he gets caught he will have to pay the piper. Would I want a legally sanctioned Dexter? Hell no. But Dexter has a code and HE FOLLOWS IT, which unfortunately differs from our legal system which has a code, but if you have a lot of money and a really good lawyer none of it matters.

[Deleted]

No, I wouldn't support killing anyone unless it's in self defense or there is no other way (for example a terrorist with a bomb belt threatening to blow up the place).

However murderers who are killed and are posing no threat to anyone should be punished according to law, not murdered in turn. The eye for eye thing is just vengeance, not punishment or justice. Besides there are some murders that .. well, for the lack of better words, could be partly justified. For example a woman murdering her abusive husband in a heat of passion or someone killing a burglar that's breaking into their house even though he could have just let him go.

[Kimboslyce]

No I wouldn't reminds me of the Yakuza who first started off as problem solvers and Dexter in a sense is a problem solver

[Deleted]

No, I wouldn't support killing anyone unless it's in self defense or there is no other way (for example a terrorist with a bomb belt threatening to blow up the place).

However murderers who are killed and are posing no threat to anyone should be punished according to law, not murdered in turn. The eye for eye thing is just vengeance, not punishment or justice. Besides there are some murders that .. well, for the lack of better words, could be partly justified. For example a woman murdering her abusive husband in a heat of passion or someone killing a burglar that's breaking into their house even though he could have just let him go.

Says you. To me and many others its the perfect punishment.

If I punch someone, I expect to be punched back.
If I swear at someone, I expect to get sworn at back.
If I murder someone then I will expect to get killed in return.

Treat others how you expect to be treated yourself. If you're going to kill you should expect to be killed.

Also, the murders you stated in the second part are completely different to the type or murderers Dexter kills.

[sliplocke]

Like the failings of the justice system?

The justice system releases murderers who reoffend which is a failure on society.
The justice system fails to properly convict murderers meaning they get off free and in the future commit more murders/crime which is a failure on society.

Whatever way you look at it, the justice system fails society in more ways than Dexter ever could. Dexter may kill the odd innocent here and there which is extremely rare but the justice system has so much blood on its hands its ridiculous.

http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...1634-31338172/

Thats just one story which took about 5 seconds to find of method one in which the justice system fails society and it leads to death.

Dexter wouldn't be as sloppy as a system that is being ripped open by lawyers paid to do so and liberalists with human rights bullshit who think murderers deserve the same respect as someone who has contributed a lot to the world like Steve Jobs. In liberalists eyes, humans are humans, regardless of their doing.

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No it doesn't at all. Prove that it does. The judicial system fails people in ways some people cannot logically fathom.

If a murderer is convicted and given 14 years then comes out and murders, the victim was failed by the judicial system.

If a murderer is found out by Dexter to be a murderer and is killed, he cannot go to prison and be released and the victim cannot be failed.

In that instance, Dexter has done good whereas the judicial system is wrong.

As Dexter is part of the system that helps convict murderers, one of the most important parts in fact, he is likely to be very accurate in his killings.

If anything, Dexter would be more accurate in his workings than a judicial system with more holes in it than your average sieve.

I think the fact that is being ignored is Dexter is a serial killer. He literally has the urge/need/craving to murder. The reason people side with his particular brand of murder is that his adoptive father instilled in him a code that "justified" his killing. What isn't being discussed is a serial killer is a serial killer and some times enough isn't enough. Why are serial killers caught? They aren't caught because they are stupid, they are caught because they get overzealous. They can't stop themselves and that's what Dexter is. In the first season (the best season btw) he is battling this. His "code" only masks what he really is. He fakes everything else. He fakes it so much he gets really good at it and you have season 2 (which was weak imo) he begins to convince himself of his "code" which is absolutely false, a serial killer can't connect with society, that's why they do what they do.

The people agreeing with this method of Justice and comparing it to the current system are doing exactly what LAWYERS do in court to get ACTUAL murders off or at least a more relaxed sentence. You are playing the system to prove Dexter isn't a serial killer, which he is.

And also, it isn't liberal/hippie/tree huggers who don't support this idea. I do find comfort in the option of a death penalty in the United States. I know that if I had a loved one murdered, I'd like to be the one to have the option to let this person live or die. In that way, I'd like to see the Judicial system change. I'd like to see the sentence discussed with the victims family or families and I'd like their opinion on the matter to be the final say so. I'd like to think I'd be level headed and put someone in jail for life but if I were ever faced with that situation, I'd want to be the one to decide the fate of my family members murderer, NOT a serial killer. That is a burden I want to bear. No one else.

[Deleted]

No I wouldn't reminds me of the Yakuza who first started off as problem solvers and Dexter in a sense is a problem solver

Dumbest argument yet.

Japan has one of the lowest crime rates in the world, I wonder why......

its because people know if they kill or step out of line the Yakuza will end them. Strict code policy works.

[Tobywongg]

Just so you know sometimes DNA can be wrong too.

[Deleted]

Says you. To me and many others its the perfect punishment.

If I punch someone, I expect to be punched back.
If I swear at someone, I expect to get sworn at back.
If I murder someone then I will expect to get killed in return.

Treat others how you expect to be treated yourself. If you're going to kill you should expect to be killed.

Also, the murders you stated in the second part are completely different to the type or murderers Dexter kills.

Well, I never watched the show but they deserve to go to prison, not murdered in any case.

Besides, id someone hits me, I'd call the police and sue them.
If someone swears at me, they don't deserve a response at all, sinking to their level just gives them what they want.

And murder, well.. I'm against killing. Murdering someone as a "punishment" is still murder. I believe they should be punished, even more harshly than the current laws allow, for example forced labor but killing is killing and there is never any justification to that.

[Greeney]

No, though I wouldn't feel very much sympathy for his victims.

Even Dexter has flaws.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1AWcQ52j6E

[Maruka]

I wouldnt want to, because then the entire police force would be complete retards that cant catch their coworker killing people with obvious evidence around.