Mists of Pandaria Beta - Build 15972

[Wayne25uk]

Anybody else see a problem with the Exotic Leather for leather workers? "Cleanse 5 pieces of Sha touched leather to create one exotic leather - Reagents needed x4 Sha touched leather" eh? Make no sense it does not!

[Speakeasy_zj]

Avenging Wrath is now dispellable.

Waiting for it. Every patch is nerf nerf nerf nerf. We don't need nerfed. Every single beta parse shows us middle of the pack both in practice and in sims. WTF?

[leokegan]

Even more Dragon soul nerf? some of those spells are from DS

[Ledonn]

Sprite darter is a world drop estimated at 1 in 10,000 chance.
Turtle mount can only be fished from limited pools within northrend and the 5 zones of cata
Orb of disception is a world drop with a slightly higher chance off of a rare mob that spawns every 4 hours
Time-lost protodrake
Time-lost figurine
Recipe: enchant gloves: fishing
Aeonaxx
Ol crafty

There is luck, RNG, chance, grinds, time spent in the game. Them changing the Fox Kit is not needed. The Tol Barad factions already offer a pet, the seagull. If this goes live, I'll be expecting my darter in the mail.

[The Glitch]

I agree with most of your points. However, you sound like the moaner just because you are lazy, but you like pets... ok we get it

Lazy? lol excuse me but I have the number of pets I do down to pure grinding on my part, spent 3 weeks grinding the firefly pet in zangar, 2 weeks on the epic macaw, I am by no means lazy, just because I think that giving people alternate ways to achieve something is a good thing means I am lazy?

I spent a solid 6 hours farming my fox kit when it first came out, I'm sure you have lazy confused with something else.

[ejpaints]

Considering how many pets u can go capture in MoP that look just like these "rare" ones I can't understand for the life of me why some of u are complaining about the stupid fox. I mean you can capture one in pandaria in multiple colors. Let it go. Endless pet grinding is going away. Accept it.

[The Glitch]

Considering how many pets u can go capture in MoP that look just like these "rare" ones I can't understand for the life of me why some of u are complaining about the stupid fox. I mean you can capture one in pandaria in multiple colors. Let it go. Endless pet grinding is going away. Accept it.

Exactly!

[minkage]

I freaking loled hard at the Fox Kit becoming faction based

[Ledonn]

That's not the point whether or not you can go farm other color variances easily. People actually like time sinks. Real time sinks. Ones where you've got an afternoon laid out for that particular task. When you are limited to how much you can do a day simply by how many quests you can get done or they offer, it feels more like a chore than a grind. Besides, you've had 2 years to get Tol Barad exalted, 2 years to accumulate enough badges to get both mount, both that are rewarded at exalted so why add another reward, and 2 years to stick pile badges so you can obtain the pet the day it becomes a faction reward. There is no grind for the payment.

Last time I checked, blizzard had lost over 3 million subscribers since cata launched. So it's not really like this is an offering to new subs.

---------- Post added 2012-08-15 at 04:11 PM ----------

Considering how many pets u can go capture in MoP that look just like these "rare" ones I can't understand for the life of me why some of u are complaining about the stupid fox. I mean you can capture one in pandaria in multiple colors. Let it go. Endless pet grinding is going away. Accept it.

And to counter you, if there are so many, why should blizzard change the current hard to get ones? Why do people who don't want to invest the time be allowed to get that color variety? There's one that look and act exactly those one and much easier to get. So back off the grindy ones and go catch the easier

[Nathiest]

Ok now they're just nerfing Ret out of spite.

[gpalermo]

Nice update, thanks for the info Chaud!

I really hope that the nerfs to furry warriors are a mistake. At level 90 furry warriors currently do only around 15-16k dps compared to the 35-40k they do now. As it stands right now furry warriors do the lowest dps I can think of. They run out of rage all the times and the spec is just boring to play because you always have to wait until bloodthirst's cooldown ends in order to get rage. In my opinion furry should be buffed and not nerfed. The nerf to crazed beserker is crazy. By the time mist of pandaria comes around furry warriors will only be doing around 6k dps at level 90.

[ejpaints]

And to counter you, if there are so many, why should blizzard change the current hard to get ones? Why do people who don't want to invest the time be allowed to get that color variety? There's one that look and act exactly those one and much easier to get. So back off the grindy ones and go catch the easier

Probably because Blizzard feels differently. The game is changing. No amount of complaining about it is going to change that. Companion pets are turning into battle pets. It's happening. That "rare" fox kit is gonna be all over the AH soon whether it stays a rare drop or gets added to a vendor. But perhaps that's where you have the issue with it. It won't be worth as much gold.

I've put my time to get my pet achieves, even collected all the tcg ones. And in a little over a month it's going to mean absolutely nothing as anyone can go capture 1 of as many skins they can find and get the same achieve. More battle pets will be added and nothing will be rare anymore. It's happening, and it was announced long ago that it was happening. How anyone is surprised about it is what I don't get.

---------- Post added 2012-08-16 at 12:37 AM ----------

Probably because Blizzard feels differently. The game is changing. No amount of complaining about it is going to change that. Companion pets are turning into battle pets. It's happening. That "rare" fox kit is gonna be all over the AH soon whether it stays a rare drop or gets added to a vendor. But perhaps that's where you have the issue with it. It won't be worth as much gold.

I've put my time to get my pet achieves, even collected all the tcg ones. And in a little over a month it's going to mean absolutely nothing as anyone can go capture 1 of as many skins they can find and get the same achieve. More battle pets will be added and nothing will be rare anymore. It's happening, and it was announced long ago that it was happening. How anyone is surprised about it is what I don't get.

You've got to be trolling....

[ironfists]

this better be fake. wtf is with all the nerfs to my ret

[Eazycheeze]

When will this build hit the live non-beta/PTR servers?

[Alayea]

When will this build hit the live non-beta/PTR servers?

Patch 5.0.4 will launch on August 28th. This is not to say that there can't be additional builds before then, though.

[Eazycheeze]

Patch 5.0.4 will launch on August 28th. This is not to say that there can't be additional builds before then, though.

I know 5.0.4 will hit Aug. 28th. I want to know if Build 15792 will be included in 5.0.4.

[Alayea]

I know 5.0.4 will hit Aug. 28th. I want to know if Build 15792 will be included in 5.0.4.

I'm not certain what you're asking, then. Builds are the patch.

[Eazycheeze]

I don't know how it works. Does every build released before patch day get included in the patch?

[Alayea]

I don't know how it works. Does every build released before patch day get included in the patch?

Without going into too much detail, basically yes.

[Ihateregistering]

Just a friendly heads up to all the QQers about nerfbats. Take a look, at the last 7 months at how many locks have been near the top of your damage meters. Try to understand what being a dot-based class has to look forward to when mob health is lowered, and fight times are lowered, below the time it takes for any of those dots to reach the end of their duration. NOW. Look at any front-loaded, Direct-damage based, Burst-favored classes. I am talking to you, ret pallies, but also warr, rogues, and hunters, et al. Look at how many of your specials say "a % of your weapon damage". This is the beginning of a new tier. You are getting the starter-model weapons. When you get that next ilevel weapon upgrade, you see a quantum leap in your damage.

Ret Pallies, you have been spoiled. Just gladly move to the back of the bus enjoy the ride, don't worry tho. In 6 months you'll be moving back up near the front of the bus, and in a year, when the next or final tier of gear comes out, you can summarily kick the warlocks out of the bus. Run over them. Back up, run them over again, and finally, shift into D and run over them even more.

This is always how it has been. It is nothing new. The only people that have a true leg to stand and cry on are dot-based classes, except for shadow priests. The most elegantly designed class in the game. Have always had great sustained dps, great multi-dotting (which agreed, loses luster at end-tier with the shortened fight times) and ridiculously easy and powerful AoE. Oh. and a 2-button burst option that still competes.

Look, it's beta. they've tried some new things. You have to understand they're trying to balance things around material we won't see for 2 years, around all toons in best in slot. The amounts of deductions we will all get, for not having BiS, will all vary in differing ways for all of us, and will be lowering at different rates for all of us over the tier lifespan.

This problem has been here since the dawn of Azerothian time. It's always been a challenge to fit Dot-based classes in with Front-loaded classes, especially for PvE top end raiding, and many of us will never get to that. Not to mention fitting PvP considerations in as well. If you don't beleive me, and you have the patience to get thru it, it was elegently explained here:

cynwise.wordpress.com/warlockery/decline-and-fall/

Apparantly, having just registered, they won't let me link links, you can copy paste that easily enough. Or maybe a moderator can see it's legit and fix it for me.

I dare you, read that, it is NOT a QQ fest it's got meat on it's bones, and it will give you a more understanding view of what is/has been going on, for all classes and specs. You all can learn something from it. Some of you a lot, many of you, not so much but still. It beats reading trade for 4 hours a night. Or trolling posts full of off-the-cuff crying.