jordan. 6 rings and his mvp seasons.
magic johnson. he was far more than a scorer (although he could do that too), he made everybody on his team better
Michael Jordan, obviously.
There have been many players that were more physically gifted than him, but no one had the drive and the will to win that he had. He didn't just want to win, he wanted to destroy you. And he did.
Jordan worked his ass off to become the greatest player ever. If Jordan had been born with the physical gifts someone like Lebron was born with, he would have literally never lost a game.
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Atm I don't think it makes much sense to even have Lebron in this argument. You can't make this kind of judgement till you see the totality of a players career. So in that regards anyone still an active player in the NBA shouldn't be considered.
With that in mind, MJ would have to be my pick, most amazing player I have seen play the game.
Ofc none of this has anything to do with best player of all time and if I had to pick someone not named Jordan it wouldnt be Lebron I can tell you that much. I still see the gap between Jordan and second place as so wide that I dont even see the purpose of this discussion. What he did in the era he did it in was unparalleled. Has nothing to do with me being from Chicago (Karl Malone was my favorite player when I was a kid oddly enough) hes just the flat out best, all there is to it.
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He had the perfect amount of natural ability, if he had more, he may never have strived to improve the amount he did. If he had less, he wouldn't have never become the dominating player he was.
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yeah, the number of championships defining greatness is vastly overrated..
you're telling me that Malone, Stockton, Barkley & Ewing were all scrubs right?
Ted Williams was a scrub by that estimation..
michael jordan? is there any other answer i mean really?
i didnt read all of the thread. i know MJ is the obvious answer. but what about Oscar Robertson? hes the only player to avg a triple double
Michael Jordan, no doubt about it, for now. I mean as I watch NBA all you can see and hear about are LeBron James and Kevin Durant. And if you think about the fact, that Kevin Durant is 24 years old, and LeBron James is 28 years old and they are both so consistent in all aspects of the game, maybe one of them could be the best player of all times in the future.
Michael Jeffrey Jordan. Any other answer is wrong.
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Lebron James is all hype. 1 ring, being dragged through the season and finals by Dwayne Wade, who just so happens to be a better player.
There is no competition between Jordan and Lebron, in any skill set. Passing, scoring, dunking, defense, team work, hard work, competitiveness. Lebron James is a joke and wouldnt come off the bench in the 80's/90s. Anyone who thinks James is in the same league as Jordan is A) Retarded B) From Miami C) Doesnt Follow Basketball or D) all three.
MJ because its about how he closed the game in the last 5 minutes. I've never seen a player with such desire for greatness.
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Micheal Jordan, end of story.
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