Originally Posted by
conscript
This is the most insane comparison ever. LeBron is Vince freaking Carter? Excuse me, its not insane it is downright stupid.
1) Vince is a highlight player nothing more. He was never a team guy. He never elevated others with his play. He barely rebounds. He is a negative defender.
2) The stats alone don't back up your insane premise.
Career stats:
LeBron James: 700 games, 27.6 points, 7.2 rebounds, 6.9 assists, 1.7 steals, .8 blocks
Vince Carter: 998 games played, 21.3 points, 5.1 rebounds, 3.9 assists, 1.2 steals, .7 blocks
But Conscript those stats aren't fair since Vince has eroded.
Best year in career:
Vince Carter:2006-07 25.2 points, 6 rebounds, 4.8 assists, 1 steal, .4 blocks, 2.6 TO, 3.2 PF
LeBron's 7th best career year: 26.7 points, 7.5 rebounds, 7 assists, 1.6 steals, .6 blocks, 3.6 TO, 2.1 PFs
The best year in VCs ENTIRE career would be the SEVENTH best year in LeBron's. Even by advanced metrics, VCs best year would be 12.9 Win Shares (10.3 Offensive, 2.6 Defensive) in 2000-01. That is worse than every single year of LeBron's entire career but his rookie season.
I'm not even going to bring up the fact that LeBron has zero injury history (his highest missed games in an entire season is 7) while Vince has a long history of injury issues. But I will bring up these stats:
MVP: LeBron 3 (and we all know it is really 4) VC 0
All NBA 1st team: LeBron 6, VC 0
All NBA 2nd team: LeBron 2, VC 1
All NAB 3rd team: LeBron 0, VC 1
All NBA Defensive 1st team: LeBron 4, VC 0
Rings: LeBron 1, VC 0
So in what universe are they even at all comparable players health wise, stat wise, or anything wise? They don't even play similar games.
As for Kobe and LeBron, the great debate, I'm too busy to get into that right this second, but I'll have it up this afternoon.