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    Quote Originally Posted by Dathremar View Post
    I have been playing monk in MoP and I am lvl 72 now. What is your recommendation for a weapon on lvl 90, two handed or dual weld?
    Pretty sure it's already been answered in this thread, but Dual Wield.

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    Why is Chi Wave being considered better than Chi Burst. According to the tool tips, Chi Burst not only deals more damage to the target, but heals more as well. It damages all targets in it's path as opposed to only 4, and the same goes for it's healing. I understand there is a 1 second cast time but that doesn't seem to be of any importance seeing the GCD is 1 second as well. Any light that could be shed on the matter would be appreciated.

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    It requires careful positioning in order to aim the burst correctly and smart targeting to have it travel through the highest amount of targets. Generally not something you have time for as a melee dps. While Chi Wave can just be cast on yourself and then you can forget about it. The damage of any of the 3 talents is negligible, it's mostly about the healing. If you don't mind losing a lot of dps while moving around the room trying to position yourself for a good chi burst, then by all means go for it

    That said, it could be useful on certain encounters, like the final phases of garajal and elegon. But my experience sofar has been that enrage times are tight enough that you should not be wasting chi on non-damaging abilities unless as last resort.
    Last edited by Mihir; 2012-10-16 at 02:19 PM.

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    So SimC updated their Normal and Heroic T14 gear sets and it appears that Crit is now the best stat to have:
    Tier 14 Normal:
    Crit = 6595
    Haste = 2593
    Mastery = 2034
    Most gem slots are Agi/Crit with a few Agi/Hit for the blue slots

    Tier 14 Heroic:
    Crit = 8035
    Haste = 3691
    Mastery = 3047

    I couldn't find anything on EJ or here as to the reason behind the massive 180 on the value of haste though.

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    Where exactly is that located?

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    So I have no idea how to process SimCraft, I was spoiled with Shadowcraft. Just how do you extrapolate stat weights from that?
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    There's a gearlist showing reforges and on some items, it's actually reforging haste->crit Thanks for pointing that out, might go have a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinalover View Post
    So SimC updated their Normal and Heroic T14 gear sets and it appears that Crit is now the best stat to have:
    Tier 14 Normal:
    Crit = 6595
    Haste = 2593
    Mastery = 2034
    Most gem slots are Agi/Crit with a few Agi/Hit for the blue slots

    Tier 14 Heroic:
    Crit = 8035
    Haste = 3691
    Mastery = 3047

    I couldn't find anything on EJ or here as to the reason behind the massive 180 on the value of haste though.
    I can't reproduce these new stat values in simcraft, so it might just be an error by whoever committed that change. Ill look into it when i have some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    I can't reproduce these new stat values in simcraft, so it might just be an error by whoever committed that change. Ill look into it when i have some time.
    I just downloaded it, and I don't know if i did something wrong or if its because I'm 2H but I got some pretty haste biased stat weights.
    http://i.imgur.com/BPla1.png?1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    I can't reproduce these new stat values in simcraft, so it might just be an error by whoever committed that change. Ill look into it when i have some time.
    I'm not sure if the release has the change or not but eein fixed issues with fists of furry I think 3 days ago. Because of this change, before 2pc haste is still prefered. But as soon as you get 2pc t14 crit flips to the top due to the increased time spent casting FoF resulting in capping issues.

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    Totally unrealistic unfortunately, as there's no raid encounter except maybe garajal where you can use FoF on cooldown...

    Basing a simcraft profile on ability usage that is not realistic on 5 out of 6 raid encounters seems kind of silly.

    stone guard - constantly needing to move due to pools/frost traps
    feng - nature phase - less than 25 seconds between epicenter
    feng - shadow phase - less than 25 seconds between shield phase
    spirit kings - qiang - not usable during flanking order
    spirit kings - meng - not usable during demented phase
    spirit kings - subetai - unlikely to sync up with sleight/pillage/flanking order
    elegon - unusable on energy charges, protectors
    will of the emperor - unusable on courages, strengths, less than 25 seconds between devastating combos

    So this reforging is accurate for:

    feng's arcane and fire phases
    garajal
    spirit king - zian

    I really doubt you will run into capping issues on anything except garajal.

    The practical value of the 2piece bonus is pretty much 0 on most encounters, and thus the practical value of a crit reforging is 0 as well.

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-19 at 02:02 PM ----------

    Added a bit about Xuen (scaling and abilities).
    Last edited by Mihir; 2012-10-18 at 10:34 PM.

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    Is there a definitive list for Trinkets for us?

    I'm currently using Relic of Xeun & Searing Words. What should I be replacing SW with?

    Thanks!

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    Whichever raid trinket you can possibly get.

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    Trinket ranking:

    5585 509 terror in the mists
    5373 502 bottle of infinite stars
    5017 476 relic of xuen
    4955 496 terror in the mists
    4770 489 bottle of infinite stars
    4668 476 bottle of infinite stars
    4372 483 terror in the mists
    4238 489 jade bandit figurine
    4183 463 searing words
    3836 450 zen alchemist stone
    3704 463 windswept pages
    3476 463 flashing steel talisman
    2892 470 coren's cold chromium coaster
    2860 442 gerp's perfect arrow

    TL;DR: HC RAID > DMC > OTHER RAIDS > RAID TRASH > HC 5MAN > BREWFEST
    Last edited by Mihir; 2012-10-19 at 10:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    Trinket ranking:

    5585 509 terror in the mists
    5373 502 bottle of infinite stars
    5017 476 relic of xuen
    4955 496 terror in the mists
    4770 489 bottle of infinite stars
    4668 476 bottle of infinite stars
    4372 483 terror in the mists
    4238 489 jade bandit figurine
    4183 463 searing words
    3836 450 zen alchemist stone
    3704 463 windswept pages
    3476 463 flashing steel talisman
    2892 470 coren's cold chromium coaster
    2860 442 gerp's perfect arrow

    TL;DR: HC RAID > DMC > OTHER RAIDS > RAID TRASH > HC 5MAN > BREWFEST

    Hey Mihir thanks for the guide. On the trinkets where does our Shado-Pan trinket fall?

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    It's the same stats as the Jade Bandit Figurine.

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    Where does this list come from? Some values seem really strange. E.g. Bottle 476 -> Bottle 489 = 102, while Bottle 489 -> Bottle 502 = 603. And Xuen / Jade Bandit Figurine seem a bit low compared to others, mostly because of the huge ICD of Terror and the suboptimal stats on Bottle.

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    Xuen dynamically scales with your stats correct? If that is the case does it matter if its summoned before/after hero/lust is popped?
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