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  1. #1261
    Quote Originally Posted by Hinalover View Post
    Too early to say at this point until we can get a base mastery %. It's a nerf either way, but to put some perspective, On Ji-kun, I've had times where I would f' up my pre-pull trinket switch, and the damage with and without is ~20k in Heroic gear. Best case scenereo, your talking maybe a 10k difference. I would suggest picking up both Renataki's as well as Bad Juju; NOW; if you haven't gotten them already.
    Yep. Luckily I have a 522 mojo from ages ago
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    Bows were made for tools of war. They go in the same pot as guns. There is ZERO reason to own a bow in 2014. Tools of war have no place in civilian homes.

  2. #1262
    @the TEB changes: our damage is pretty good, not sure we really needed a nerf, though, seemed like Warlocks and a few others were keeping up just fine. (Honestly, when did this game become World of Warlocks?) But the biggest thing is that we have to completely relearn our class...AGAIN. 3 tiers, 3 completely different playstyles. Wish they'd make up their minds. I guess it comes with playing a new class...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felade View Post
    @the TEB changes: our damage is pretty good, not sure we really needed a nerf, though, seemed like Warlocks and a few others were keeping up just fine. (Honestly, when did this game become World of Warlocks?) But the biggest thing is that we have to completely relearn our class...AGAIN. 3 tiers, 3 completely different playstyles. Wish they'd make up their minds. I guess it comes with playing a new class...
    Our damage is good because of current mastery and Rune. The actual Roro proc increases my overall dps by 18.5% averaged over the long run. Add to that the longer time needed to get a max stack TEB with the 5.4 mastery, and we'll probably need a 20-25% overall buff to not be worse off with this change.

    Also, we won't have to relearn anything, since this new mastery is much more passive than our current one. All you'll need to relearn is the new stat weights.

  4. #1264
    How do feel are new stats weights will look?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crevan View Post
    Our damage is good because of current mastery and Rune. The actual Roro proc increases my overall dps by 18.5% averaged over the long run. Add to that the longer time needed to get a max stack TEB with the 5.4 mastery, and we'll probably need a 20-25% overall buff to not be worse off with this change.

    Also, we won't have to relearn anything, since this new mastery is much more passive than our current one. All you'll need to relearn is the new stat weights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewzlee View Post
    How do feel are new stats weights will look?
    I would guess that we will start gemming Agi again. Depending on how good mastery would be I would assume: Hit/exp cap>Agi>haste to 6000-8000(what you prefer)>crit>mastery. But we have to wait and see when this change rolls out on the PTR.

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    We can't give stat weights before we know what the mastery coefficients are. Just wait till we get more information.

  7. #1267
    Quote Originally Posted by pattison View Post
    We can't give stat weights before we know what the mastery coefficients are. Just wait till we get more information.
    WW mastery coefficients are 300 rating/mastery with a base of 16%

    The current state of the PTR, its looking like haste under the soft cap is eligible to be gemmed over agility, but other than that we should be gemming agi. Secondary stats favor crit over mastery once you are haste capped. We will see if those change before live.

    Personally I'm shooting for a haste cap of about 10k without the t15 2pc.

  8. #1268
    this looks fucking shit! beter reroll of it goes live >.>

  9. #1269
    Quote Originally Posted by asatoor View Post
    this looks fucking shit! beter reroll of it goes live >.>
    You should wait for it to get closer to live, they are just starting to do the number tweeking at the moment.

  10. #1270
    So, is it safe to assume that the current build of Windwalker's Tigereye Brew is a misprint or a bug, or did they really give us a +90% damage burst?
    Praise the Quest Writers for they give life to otherwise boring expansions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWindWalker View Post
    So, is it safe to assume that the current build of Windwalker's Tigereye Brew is a misprint or a bug, or did they really give us a +90% damage burst?
    UP TO 90% with 15 stacks. But it's 6% per stack.

  12. #1272
    I'm excited for 5.4. No stressing over not having for and xuen with a pet bar!
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    You know what happened when i started playing in TBC in 2.1 and rolled ret as my first char? Lol ret , Lol ret , Lol ret , Lol ret You know what i was saying in a few months? Lol hows kara? Then I cleared BT/SW while they followed behind me sniffing my gloriously rosey turds.

  13. #1273
    While originally I was a bit miffed about the change, they're obviously still tweaking it and since I never managed to get my grubby mitts on a RoR, it's looking like it's going to be a buff to me.

    That may have some direct influence on my changed mind...

  14. #1274
    Quote Originally Posted by Miuh View Post
    You should wait for it to get closer to live, they are just starting to do the number tweeking at the moment.
    I'd still suggest getting prepared if you want to push content, I'm still skeptical at best personally considering their comments more or less mirror the 5.2 shenanigans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airwaves View Post
    Bows were made for tools of war. They go in the same pot as guns. There is ZERO reason to own a bow in 2014. Tools of war have no place in civilian homes.

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    Is RoRo really that much of a dmg increase or is it an option to ignore the rune?
    I just got the LFR version of the rune and I'm not really sure if I should replace one of my other trinkets for it.
    Shado-pan 2/2 and Bad Juju 2/2 (fixed reforge to crit because of my BrM mainspecc)
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  16. #1276
    You should for sure use RoR, it's the largest DPS increase you can get. Probably replacing the vicious talisman.
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  17. #1277
    Quote Originally Posted by Triemer View Post
    Is RoRo really that much of a dmg increase or is it an option to ignore the rune?
    I just got the LFR version of the rune and I'm not really sure if I should replace one of my other trinkets for it.
    RoRo will boost your dps alot even LFR version. Loose some stats for 15s crazy damage done increase will push your dps up like crazy. While playing my monk i see that 2/2 RoRo Normal TF proc sequence actually just a very very little more often than 2/2 LFR version.

  18. #1278
    Got question regarding trinkets. Got 3 at my disposal: Rune of Re-origination ilvl 530 (I take it is a must) plus bad juju (543 ilvl) and Renataki's Soul Charm (also 543). Which of this mix would you suggest?

    Also how good is current tier bonus? E.x. would it be worth to drop my 543 tank legs to go for 522 dps for 2set bonus?

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    Set bonuses are 'okay' this tier but you won't see any real noticeable difference. If you can afford to use the expertise on Renataki's with proper RoRo reforges and gems then use that. Otherwise go with Juju. There is very little difference between the two trinkets.
    Last edited by pattison; 2013-07-18 at 09:08 AM.

  20. #1280
    Quote Originally Posted by pattison View Post
    Set bonuses are 'okay' this tier but you won't see any real noticeable difference. If you can afford to use the expertise on Renataki's with proper RoRo reforges and gems then use that. Otherwise go with Juju.
    I finally started getting some decent pieces for dps as in my tank gear I have way too high ammount of crit for real roro usage (over 12k crit). I'll try stick to higher lvl ones as long as I can get correct stat balance.

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