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    We need a new Insane achievement

    I've posted a thread on official forums:

    En: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4941498461
    Ru: http://eu.battle.net/wow/ru/forum/topic/4941138609

    Hello!

    A little prehistory...

    I’ve started playing on the official server since 2008. Like every beginner player, I’ve got the highest level, simultaneously marveling at the new world, customs and rules of the official server, achievements, and indeed almost any smallest details of the game.

    But one year has passed. I’ve obtained a long-awaited Level 80. Equipped in an ordinary blue items and knowing nothing about my own class, but met a lot of different people, who started as the same novices as I was, and finished the hardcore raiders. Then I began to wonder: What next? What else can I do here?

    At that time raids seemed to me incomprehensible, difficult, they scared and totally did not attracted me (especially after the guild raids on Sartharion from the Obsidian Sanctuary, when, having a terrible Internet, we heard the cries of RL, who implored us to run between the fire walls). BG was bored, Arena (like raids) seemed also hard and difficult.

    There was nothing to do. Until...

    Once I saw a player, who was riding on a white Winterspring Frostsaber. He stood out against common gray mounts, and I (as a big lover of something unusual and unique), right of wanted to get this mount. Who does not want to stand out among other? Immediately abandoning my shyness, I asked this player how to get it, and then, I rushed to farm.
    Yeah, it was difficult for about a month running up and down in the Winterspring, cruelly killing Chimeras, Frostsabers and Ice Giants. But finally I got my Winterspring Frostsaber and in addition a great achievement.

    And ... I loved it!

    Insane in the Membrane

    Further I got Insane in the Membrane.

    At first it seemed to me crazy, and impossible to achieve.
    I spent 3 insane months. One of them I’ve leveled up a rogue to level 60 and diligently farmed heavy junkboxes. Second month, days and nights, I sat in Dire Maul (friends "complained": "I enter the game - Wishmaster is in a Dire Maul, I wanna get out - he's as usual there, and I oversee it every day"). Third month I’ve finished everything that's left.

    Then in such a way I got a Hero of Shattrath and one by one started to obtain the other achievements...

    Friendship with the raids failed. I’ve raided the Ulduar, the Citadel and the early Cataclysm raids. I’ve got a lot of good friends with whom we continue to communicate until now. But most I prefer to depend on myself, on my desires and possibilities. I like to overcome the difficulties, I like this pleasant feeling when I do something difficult, that other players have refused to do. I like to do the "great thing" at the end of which I will be rewarded. And the most attractive for me is the process of receiving but not the moment of getting the achievement. And finally, there are great moments, when other gamers point at you a finger, loudly calling «Achievement geek» (no, it does not hurt, it even please), but after all whispers: «How long did you farm it?»

    In our days...

    Came the Cataclysm time. The achievement “Insane” became “Scarcely Insane” because the Shen'dralar faction (about 1/4 of the achievement) was removed. You’ve added guild perks, that significantly increased the speed of gaining the reputation, the Darkmoon Faire was updated in patch 4.3 and thus and so gamers were able to obtain all reputation only making usual daily quests.
    “Insane in the Membrane” has lost its uniqueness - everyone can get it, making just little effort.

    During all the Cataclysm beta I hoped that we would get an analog of “Insane in the Membrane”, a new crazy achievement, having heard the name of which, ordinary people would say: «It is impossible, unreal!». But unfortunately it didn’t appear.

    Cataclysm came to its logical end.

    Slowly, approaches Mists of Pandaria. And there is no New Insane in the Membrane. PvE players get their raiding achievements, PvP players - their own. «Achievement geeks» - get nothing. But why there is no small achievement? It is just a couple of lines of code, a few letters and little achievement icon! Why not create a global goal for which you can throw all?

    Double Insane

    I understand, that not many people are interested in hard achievements, like us. But we do exist. And we need our «new content». Please do us a favor.
    Let be the new achievement’s name «Insane in the Membrane – 2» and its title «Double Insane», but let it be!
    We really need it.
    I hope that you would understand my wish.

    In any case, I want to thank you for this amazing game, and for a special "spirit of Blizzard», which prevails even outside the game. Thanks! =)

    With best regards.
    Your eternal fan and feral druid to the innermost of my heart, Wishmaster (Вишмастер)

    PS: I’m looking forward to any support and comments…
    What do you think about this?

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    More crazy grindy stuff for the truly insane to go for: absolutely! I don't go for it myself, but I can appreciate there are those who want to put in that level of effort.

    The problem is, what reps would it use? What would you need to do for it? I suppose they'd need to implement a bunch of new stuff in MoP, but... what?

    I'm totally for it, but I just don't know what could be used.

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    If i'm looking at the stuff i will have to do as achievement hunter with MoP, i don't need another Insane title.

    There's just so much to do with MoP, alone the pet battle achievements will take a serious amount of time.

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    only when im extreamly bored would i goafter the insane i got the cartel reps but thats it

    supose for those that want it why not?

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    I farmed for the Insane when it first came out, my dad was very ill at the time and I had taken time off work to look after him. I used to grind a bit here and there when time allowed and eventually, after what seemed like a million trips to Dire Maul to drop off librams, I got it. I'm not sure I'd have the time or the patience to do an "Insane 2" but clearly there are people who play WoW for the grind - those players need catering for every bit as much as those who enjoy 5 mans, raids and PVP.
    Dragonslayer Hoddie - pretending to know what I'm doing!

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    I guess they could add it, it won't hurt anyone.

    I'm wondering btw, if I got bloodsail on 1 char and the rest of the reps on another, will I get the FOS in MOP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proteus View Post
    I guess they could add it, it won't hurt anyone.

    I'm wondering btw, if I got bloodsail on 1 char and the rest of the reps on another, will I get the FOS in MOP?
    Depends if the achievement gets flagged as account wide or not. My gut feeling is that yes, that would work, but you'd need to research into whether it's going account wide.

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    The insane seemed to mainly be a way to keep the old useless reputations in the game.

    There arent anymore useless ones left so they would have to.. put in a bunch of useless content to be able to justify making it 'hard' and 'insaney'.

    Another approach would be to make one that isnt rep related, for example a massive checklist of simply hard tasks. Could be 100 unique, yet hard 'do x while y happens during z' style tasks.

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    I dont think it is a good idea. One insane is enough, but new kind of insane type achievement would be great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proteus View Post
    I guess they could add it, it won't hurt anyone.

    I'm wondering btw, if I got bloodsail on 1 char and the rest of the reps on another, will I get the FOS in MOP?
    I don't think so, because I'm pretty sure Blizzard has said that earning the criteria for an achievement on different characters won't earn you the achievement.

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    Nothing in the original version was ever difficult, but merely considerable grinds.
    It was simply unwillingness of many players to dedicate the time which seemed to give it any value.

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    A lot of people downtalk Insane in cataclysm, but the Bloodsail/goblin reps got harder to do. Sure, you guys got to beat on level 40 or whatever bruisers. They got beefed up for 85 in cataclysm.

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    More stuff that takes a considerable amount of time to farm, yet it's only purpose is to show "I'm better then you because i have this title", only later for blizzard to nerf it and cause a shit storm in the process.

    No thanks.
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    And I would vote for "the Psychotic" or "the Demented" as opposed to "the Double Insane".

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    +1, Double Insane looks...bad

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    No there's no need as we already got one IMO.

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    If people want a new insane title to work on than they should get one. I don't see the harm in making a new one.

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    There's no reason why it shouldn't be added, people who don't want to do the grind, such as myself, don't have to do it. If it lets others have fun, why not.

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    It's a nice idea, but what reps would you use for this "new Insane". I can only think of Ogri'la as a hard grind not many people do, but that, unlike the original reps actually had a purpose in TBC, and decent rewards.

    So what reps do you think we should use?

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    I'd vote yes for sure!

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