That said - I don't see why you'd need to know what dots to cast - if it's not up, it should be. Its absence from the tracker should speak loud enough, and there's almost no reason to let a dot fall off to begin with - that's the whole point of the tracks you mention - but NTK can be made to flash warnings when something that should be there, isn't.
I did a quick search for this thread so my apologies if it's been pointed out seeing that the last thing about Windsong was when it was broken but does Jade Spirit still come out ahead of Windsong for Affliction?
Jade spirit will always being superior.
In the perfect world, you will always get the haste / mastery bonus, whose are awesome. But in practice you will notice a ridiculously high amount of crit proc.
On the other hand with Jade Spirit you can't go wrong. Int AAAAALLLL THE WAAAAAAYYYYY on a predictable pattern. Much more reliable.
Example: Stone Guards: I was popping Doomguard after 1º set of tiles being light up, now when bosses are at 20%? Will cut our dps alot.
Feng- I was popping him at the start of the fight keeping me always on top 2-3. Now I need to use him on last phase(fire phase).
Gara'jal- When boss reaches 20% his hp will drop so fast and furious...We can't use it on 20% but I would say 25% with potion?
Spirit Kings- This it's a tricky boss since we will have 4 bosses to choose where to use DG, here im using him at start. What you suggest here? Using him at the 1ºboss on 20% and let it run for the 2nd boss?
Elegon- At this fight, I was saving him for last phase so no big deal.
Will of Emperor- I was using it on the 1st titan gas, I was doing it wrong tho.
Heart of Fear
Zorlok- So on this boss we don't pop him right way when he pull all raid to him, it seems we need to wait until he reaches 21-20% hp.
Blade Lord Ta'yak- I'm sorry but on this fight I WILL NOT USE him at 20%, will be a HUGEE dps lost.
Garalon- At 20%? Isn't bad thinking :P
Wind Lord Meljarak- 20% hp it's the way to go if you aren't dead, raining blades it's like a truck.
Amber-Shaper- If you're on vehicle you'll not able to pop DG so I suggest you use it at the start of the fight. Suggestions?
Empress- Nothing to say here, 20% and burning it down.
Protectors- Prefer to use him at the start, but I will switch when last boss it's at 20%hp I guess.
Tsulong- Use it at the start! Or on "night phase", we kill him on "day phase" imagine if i had use it on "day phase". omg...
Lei- Hard to say here... Since he vanish and "call" adds. I rather use it at the start with all proc's active and such.
Sha of Fear- 20% hp nothing to say here.
Evrelia you did some maths about the difference to use it with heroism or at 20%? It's a huge dps lost if we pop it at the begin with all proc's active?
Any doubts or suggestions?
Retired World's Best Warlock.
thx to everybody who answered my question. I would try to keep all the imputs in mind, especially the boss advices. Thx
and obviously if the sub20% phase lasts for less than 1min, pop it when boss has just over 1min to death ;p
Now the tricky question? But <20% hp you will not benift im full time. Since at 20% mostly of the bosses will die like a thunder. Which % you think it's viable to pop him to benift him full time? At 30-25% hp?
DG doesn't benefit from Lust?! My world just turned upside down...
hey man , great guide, but the wowraids.org link has expired !
Edit: and it appears this guess would have been wrong, at least visually there's enough energy despite the long delay before casting.
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Apologize for the length here, but it is affliction and encounter related.
Elv's vids (most notably elegon) have been a huge help, and I'm left considering the possibilities to maximize on other bosses in particular.
WotE- Considering using GoSupp with an imp since outside of tear gas phases (normal, correct me on heroic), I'm rarely getting the full benefit of haunt + mg. That might just be me trying to dot everything with the influx of shards, is that the preferred strategy?
Garalon- I've seen this debated to the nth degree and personally feel that what works best for me is sb'd dots on 3 targets (boss + two legs), haunt a leg mg soulswap off before it dies, continue as normal while primarily focusing on single target boss with little movement
BLT- This one is all sorts of helter skelter for me personally. I run AV over KJC since movement is brief with tornados and the hamstring can be a bit of a hindrance getting to that last platform. Any little tips you warlocks use here personally? I've thought about using tele + demon circle to jet across the map, being mindful of tornados in the path in phase 2 of course.
Protectors- Here I've been running KJC primarily for phase 3 elite and keeping corr on the other bosses until its down to one.
Tsulong- Another one in the realm of WotE of me trying to figure out. Sims support gosac over gosup, so I went with that + kjc. However, I noticed that I preformed better ignoring the passive to KJC and just using FF when clearing debuff / moving out of pools. In phase 2, I'm focusing on the small sha adds primarily, with a row of dots maintained on the big guy. However, they die almost as fast as elegon sparks so I'm curious if 2x haunt would be better than a sb dot + mg. Or perhaps sb ss the 3 closest and mg the nearest one?
TL;DR- Certain bosses listed above and which t90 talent to choose for each, is WotE the only time gosup shines over gosac, and finally, how do you manage 3ish adds (garalon where they last longer / tsulong where they're spawned and killed rapidly.)
Sorry if it's a bit rambly, and I know responding to each individually would take some time, so if there's any particular boss that you've found a solid strategy for, I'm more than willing to learn to improve my performance.
As for things like it being a dps loss on stone guards etc because it won't last the full duration - pop it as close to 1minute before the kill, full duration and the 20% buff, yes you're going to have to do some guesswork as to when the last minute will be, but DBM records the fastest kill you have, try and base it off and make adjustments if you're running with 2 healers instead of 3 etc.
By now, is the Essence of Terror<<Relic of Yu'lon?
can u guys advice some unit frames to keep track of my dots on multiple targets(bosses mainly) on boss fights like stone guards or will of the emperor.On stone guards its okeyish since i see my dots through nameplates,but on will of the emperor fight i always fail to keep my dots up on bosses. =\