Would a few gold sinks help things a little?

[Alilei32]

I was thinking(try not to hurt yourself) a great way to have people spend massive amounts of gold is to obviously add gold sinks. Came up with a few ideas:

1. NPC that allows you to buy extra rune slots for skills
2. NPC that sells extra NV stacks allowing you to reach 10
3. NPC that sells a 2 hour buff that lets you swap skills without resetting your NV stacks
4. NPC that sells the ability to keep your NV stacks upon logging for up to 72 hours.
5. Casino

I remember when inflation became outrageous in Everquest they added an in game casino and people poured millions and millions of plat into it for chances at getting a rare ticket that would then give you a chance at a novelty item that no longer dropped in the game. And it worked prices on AH goods began dropping within the first week it was out. Sure eventually people began not playing as much but it had already done its job and removed a lot of plat from the game. Now this was many years ago and I havent played in a long time so Im sure inflation is back but the fact is for a decent amount of time, at least on my server, the gold sink did its job.

[Deleted]

1. No, ruins the way you make builds now and will make everyone much stronger.
2. will be too much, 5 is a good number.. and 10 stacks will neglect the need for mf
3. Ruins the idea behind building a gear / skill set that you will try to make good for everything.
4. This is also a bad idea.. get 5 nv stacks and spam farm the same elite group to get thousand of rares in no time.
5. Maybe.. depends on how it is..

They should just add the old Gamble NPC that was in d2 it will be a nice and easy gamble that can be a huge gold sink.. Also do staking for upcomming Pvp?

[Alilei32]

4. This is also a bad idea.. get 5 nv stacks and spam farm the same elite group to get thousand of rares in no time.

This will be fixed when they bring back a limit on how many times you can relog in a certain time period.

[Firecrest]

The purpose of a gold sink is to remove gold from the market. So what, exactly, makes you think that there is too much gold in the game?

Are you complaining about the AH prices? If so, there's nothing to complain about. The gear required to beat the game is reasonably priced - even cheap. This is as it should be. God-mode gear costs a small fortune. This, also, is as it should be. It gives people something to strive towards. The best of the best should be difficult to obtain. If you could gear your character out to its full potential for a couple million gold, just what would you do next?

People bitch about the economy all the time (even I used to). But what they're really complaining about is not being able to get BiS within 20 hours played. Economy is fine. Stop trying to fix something that's not broke.

[Alilei32]

The purpose of a gold sink is to remove gold from the market. So what, exactly, makes you think that there is too much gold in the game?

I dont know maybe the 1000's of gold farm bots that they refuse to do anything about? Dont try and say without gold farming bots that prices across the board wouldnt be cheaper. Less gold in the game means people cant charge 100 mil for an item because no one would have that much.

[Tokas]

i thought it was about wow ^^
anyway, idk how gold sinks can help when bots have billions... i wouldn't mind resetting the game tbh and then prevent bots from the start

[Deleted]

Gold sinks are already there..

Maybe add a new rank to gems and the gold will be gone in no time. No point in trying to cure the symptoms when the cause remains untreated. It's the bots.
Remove those and problem solved. However Blizzard is infamous for letting the bots be. I mean I report the same spammer at least 50 times a day and yet he(they?) go on spamming the same stuff every day on different accounts.

[Firecrest]

I dont know maybe the 1000's of gold farm bots that they refuse to do anything about? Dont try and say without gold farming bots that prices across the board wouldnt be cheaper. Less gold in the game means people cant charge 100 mil for an item because no one would have that much.

So what you're saying is that you think there are so many gold farming bots out there that they are the main (only?) reason why people can charge the high prices they do for top end gear? Is that correct?

I think it's a preposterous leap to assume that gold bots have that much of an effect on the economy. However, even assuming they do, who cares? I noticed that you seem to have skipped most of my post. Perhaps you should go back and re-read. The market right now is in a fine place. What does it matter how that outcome has been reached?

The market allows you to beat the game with low to moderate investment. And, if you want, you can sink serious effort into getting serious gear. All is as it should be.

[SurrealNight]

All games like this need gold sinks and I think it was a mistake on their part to not have more or functional sinks in the game. Even without bots things would get out of control.

Personally if they fixed crafting were it was universally useful that would probably create the only one really needed right now. I personally like the BMAH for WoW and that will vomit billions of gold into a black void, but WoW has always had a slew of money sinks (and a better economy because of it IMO).

[Deleted]

yeah sure, IF it were directed to the bots

[bbr]

Gold sinks, sure,.
respec cost, no.
If you go broke with a bad spec, you're stuffed.

Stuff like the shepherds crook, where you get the cowbell, etc,. paying 100k or more for each part,. thats good stuff.
Or 250k to craft an item with 6 stats, thats good. We need more recipes simply.
Make recipes more common, and people will spend more gold on the vendor to craft.

[Deleted]

They should make it so you can't remove gems once socketted, like in WoW.

As it is, you can't sell gems for a profit that's worth a damn because they're constantly entering the system but there's nothing taking gems out of the system

[chadwix]

Botters need gold sinks, legit players dont.

[Deleted]

2. will be too much, 5 is a good number.. and 10 stacks will neglect the need for mf

Isn't that a good thing? Magic Find on gear isn't any fun anyway. An improved/altered version of NV is only a good thing in my opinion.

Also, gold sinks? I hardly have any gold to spend already.

[Deleted]

1. Im for although i dont have many money,
2. They shouldnt be core game changing like more spells for some money? Imagine pvp if u see a barb with all his offensive and defensive cd's at the same time, and still have some steady spells, correct me if i understood this one wrong.
3. They should be worken out and thought out really really really good, since people will try to abuse them, and this is the biggest problem, instead of them being a gold sink, it could get a gold fountain for people who use certain programms and shit, so i think it will be hard to implement in the game,
4. Last but not least, i like the idea, since it would also give extra stuff to the game which is what ppl want
I didnt do this like number 1. On his list fits mine 1. On my list, just random likes and dislikes.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Add another tier of gems that cost something like 100 million to craft, anything else wouldn't work out too well IMO.

[Alilei32]

Botters need gold sinks, legit players dont.

They have the best one in the game its called RMAH sell gold option

[Deleted]

Remove gold sinks and design the game in a way you have no need or reason to get crazy amounts of gold.

Tada, I fixed it.

[Deleted]

no but one that would be not to imbalanced ->

buy additional npc's for town an additional "foolower" the way the JC and BS are followers -> auction House follower.

levels determine how many items you can list on the "in-game" AH follower.

levels determine the max gold said follower can "handle" for you ie -> max bid/buyout of items you can list through him.

levels determine if he can only sell items for you or if you can "search the AH" through him.

purpose -> allows Ah listing/browsing without loging out and losing Valor stacks. and another money sink as ofc all leveling of him up will be an "investment" and due to not needing "tomes of secrets" type materials to level will be a purely gold cost and due to being designed as a sink can be a high one.

alternatively a "valourous supporter" a follower who like the blacksmith and Jewlcrafter can be leveled up in town.

levels determine what he can do and what "capacity he has"

level 1 -> can preserve a single stack of Valor for 30 minutes
level 2 -> can preserve a single stack of Valor for 2 hours
level 3 -> can preserve two stacks of Valor for 2 hours
level 4 -> can preserve two stacks of Valor for 4 hours
level 5 -> can preserve Three stacks of Valor for 4 hours,
level 6 -> can preserve Three Stacks of Valor for 8 hours
level 7 -> can preserve Four stacks of Valor for 8 hours
level 8 -> can preserve Four stacks of Valor for 16 hours
Level 9 -> can preserve Five stacks of Valor for 16 hours
Level 10 -> can preserve Five stacks of Valor for 32 hours to give back to the character who generated them.
OR give 5 stacks to a character of any level which lasts 1 hour on characters <30 and normal length on characters above 30 to "encourage" alts.

gains abilities at certain levels
level 4 -> Valor to gold! changes the weight of your Valor stack to give 20% gold find and 10% magic find and 10% exp per stack!
level 8 -> Valor to Magic! Changes the weight of your Valor stack to give 20% Magic find and 10% Gold find and 10% exp per stack!
Level 10-> Valor to Paragon! Changes the weight of your Valor stack to give 20% exp and 10% gold and magic find per stack!