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  1. #301
    Quote Originally Posted by carnifex2005 View Post
    They didn't say that. They did say that you can use gold to buy gems so theoretically you don't have to spend any real money for anything in the gem store. The transmutation stones can be gotten in game but that only works for levels 1-79. Level 80 stones can only be gotten through the gem store.
    Not true. I got at least two of those in the last BWE. I don't recall from what but I did not buy them.

  2. #302
    Quote Originally Posted by Osprey39 View Post
    Not true. I got at least two of those in the last BWE. I don't recall from what but I did not buy them.
    Did you read my full sentence? I suspect not.
    Last edited by carnifex2005; 2012-08-21 at 03:29 AM.

  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Larynx View Post
    Well, a big reason is the innovation and how it differs from the typical MMO design. I look at Rift and TOR and I try to find differences between them and WoW. I see GW2 and I try to find similarities.
    But it doesn't really "Innovate" a huge deal. It does a lot of things just better then other MMOs. The whole event system was in Warhammer way back in the day but Arena net did a great job improving it. The story mode is just like in FFXI but again, Anet did a great job conforming it to the player with specific choices in certain areas. The idea of changing gear looks to different stats has been in a lot of MMOs. Dyes have been in a lot too (though only a few have ever gotten this right...I have no idea why it's so hard to let us color every piece)

    They have innovated in certain areas as well though, the weapon swapping is an interesting mechanic and neat to try out. Some people might not take to it, some might. I was kind of in the middle during the beta as to how I felt about it honestly.

  4. #304
    The fact leveling is an "option" and there aren't any raids is pretty much a deal breaker for me. I don't know if the combat got better either from when I was in beta but just didn't feel "right".

    Everything else looks good, just can't justify dropping 60 bucks on it, i'll probably pick it up for lulz when 30 expansions are released and I can buy them all for 19.99

  5. #305
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zavri View Post
    The fact leveling is an "option" . . . . is pretty much a deal breaker for me.
    it's an option? o_O news to me

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  6. #306
    Quote Originally Posted by carnifex2005 View Post
    Did you read my full sentence? I suspect not.
    I read this one: Level 80 stones can only be gotten through the gem store.

    That was what I was replying to.

  7. #307
    Quote Originally Posted by thelordymir View Post
    But it doesn't really "Innovate" a huge deal. It does a lot of things just better then other MMOs.
    "Innovation is the creation of better or more effective products, processes, services, technologies, or ideas that are readily available to markets, governments, and society."
    [quote author=ðεrfεℓ † καðαrηε link=topic=158876.msg2123362#msg2123362 date=1265649724]
    And who are you?
    Â* A two-feet-tall midget dual wielding 5ft long two-handed swords?
    Â* Or a blue-skinned half-squid-half-goat uncorrupted demon of light from outer space who is a wild shaman?
    Â* Or are you a killed, then raised, then liberated, then killed, then raised, then liberated again human whose eyes used to glow not, then glow yellow, and now glow blue (I'm not even talking of your spine portruding through your skin, your armor and your cloak)(and the ability to speak without lower jaw)?
    Â* Or are you an elf who can turn into a cat, bear, seal, cheetah, eagle and tree, but still has to use ground mounts which you magically conjure from thin air? [/quote]

  8. #308
    I would take the wiki comment saying "High-level transmutation stones will be available for purchase through the Gem Store, while lower-level stones will be available through other in-game methods" with a bucket of salt, since we haven't seen the zones (Orr, specifically) where those would likely come from, and no official comment about them (that I can find in 2 seconds or less ). Yes, we know they'll also come from BLTC chests, but I still wouldn't be surprised to see them come from Orr vendors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    Yeah, Rhandric is right, as usual.

  9. #309
    Quote Originally Posted by Osprey39 View Post
    I read this one: Level 80 stones can only be gotten through the gem store.

    That was what I was replying to.
    And that is correct.

  10. #310
    Quote Originally Posted by carnifex2005 View Post
    And that is correct.
    BLTC chests (and keys) can drop (and can be zone completion rewards) in game, so it's not entirely correct. Plus, as I said (right above your post), we haven't seen the entire world, so at most we can speculate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    Yeah, Rhandric is right, as usual.

  11. #311
    I've gotten keys as a reward that open the chests. From the chests I've gotten 10 fine transmutation stones. Never paid a cent in the cash shop.

  12. #312
    Quote Originally Posted by carnifex2005 View Post
    And that is correct.
    Not according to my beta experience. I got 2 of them from boxes I think. I don't remember exactly how I got them but I definitely did not purchase them.

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