How did GW2 managed to build its hype "without" GW1?

[Osprey39]

They didn't say that. They did say that you can use gold to buy gems so theoretically you don't have to spend any real money for anything in the gem store. The transmutation stones can be gotten in game but that only works for levels 1-79. Level 80 stones can only be gotten through the gem store.

Not true. I got at least two of those in the last BWE. I don't recall from what but I did not buy them.

[carnifex2005]

Not true. I got at least two of those in the last BWE. I don't recall from what but I did not buy them.

Did you read my full sentence? I suspect not.

[thelordymir]

Well, a big reason is the innovation and how it differs from the typical MMO design. I look at Rift and TOR and I try to find differences between them and WoW. I see GW2 and I try to find similarities.

But it doesn't really "Innovate" a huge deal. It does a lot of things just better then other MMOs. The whole event system was in Warhammer way back in the day but Arena net did a great job improving it. The story mode is just like in FFXI but again, Anet did a great job conforming it to the player with specific choices in certain areas. The idea of changing gear looks to different stats has been in a lot of MMOs. Dyes have been in a lot too (though only a few have ever gotten this right...I have no idea why it's so hard to let us color every piece)

They have innovated in certain areas as well though, the weapon swapping is an interesting mechanic and neat to try out. Some people might not take to it, some might. I was kind of in the middle during the beta as to how I felt about it honestly.

[Zavri]

The fact leveling is an "option" and there aren't any raids is pretty much a deal breaker for me. I don't know if the combat got better either from when I was in beta but just didn't feel "right".

Everything else looks good, just can't justify dropping 60 bucks on it, i'll probably pick it up for lulz when 30 expansions are released and I can buy them all for 19.99

[charlieprince]

The fact leveling is an "option" . . . . is pretty much a deal breaker for me.

it's an option? o_O news to me

oh well, have fun in whatever it is you find "fun" to play

[Osprey39]

Did you read my full sentence? I suspect not.

I read this one: Level 80 stones can only be gotten through the gem store.

That was what I was replying to.

[mistersister]

But it doesn't really "Innovate" a huge deal. It does a lot of things just better then other MMOs.

"Innovation is the creation of better or more effective products, processes, services, technologies, or ideas that are readily available to markets, governments, and society."

[rhandric]

I would take the wiki comment saying "High-level transmutation stones will be available for purchase through the Gem Store, while lower-level stones will be available through other in-game methods" with a bucket of salt, since we haven't seen the zones (Orr, specifically) where those would likely come from, and no official comment about them (that I can find in 2 seconds or less ). Yes, we know they'll also come from BLTC chests, but I still wouldn't be surprised to see them come from Orr vendors.

[carnifex2005]

I read this one: Level 80 stones can only be gotten through the gem store.

That was what I was replying to.

And that is correct.

[rhandric]

And that is correct.

BLTC chests (and keys) can drop (and can be zone completion rewards) in game, so it's not entirely correct. Plus, as I said (right above your post), we haven't seen the entire world, so at most we can speculate.

[Doozerjun]

I've gotten keys as a reward that open the chests. From the chests I've gotten 10 fine transmutation stones. Never paid a cent in the cash shop.

[Osprey39]

And that is correct.

Not according to my beta experience. I got 2 of them from boxes I think. I don't remember exactly how I got them but I definitely did not purchase them.