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    I am sort of wondering what city/state the OP is from? Must be like California or Nevada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    I am sort of wondering what city/state the OP is from? Must be like California or Nevada.
    Huh? How does that follow?
    'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
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    And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
    And there they lay I damn me eyes
    All lookouts clapped on Paradise
    All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

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    I don't think that it's in the verge of an economic collapse, but it's losing it's position as the most powerful economy quite fast.

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    If the warfare spending madness won't stop anytime soon, yes. The countries economy will collapse..

    What that madness looks like...
    Check here: http://www.iiss.org/publications/mil...ce-statistics/

    More charts: http://www.globalfirepower.com/
    Last edited by Wildtree; 2012-08-20 at 02:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haxartus View Post
    I don't think that it's in the verge of an economic collapse, but it's losing it's position as the most powerful economy quite fast.
    Well that's true enough, but that's hardly disaster.
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    Or a yawing hole in a battered head
    And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
    And there they lay I damn me eyes
    All lookouts clapped on Paradise
    All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

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    Well i think we can all see why you went for a job at Mcd's from reading this post,not the brightest light bulb in the house are ya lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by orissa View Post
    No.

    Things are actually turning around. As hard as it is to believe, unemployment is going down and the economy is growing.

    But it is still hard to get a job at the moment in a lot of places.
    Latest numbers show unemployment as going up slightly. its been over 8% for 3 years..and the effective number is probably double that. *Going off the top of my head so the numbers might be a tad off, but my recollection is that the last job numbers posted less than a month ago was that they are up.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSwain View Post
    What country are you talking about?
    Facts are facts. If someone's personal definition of unemployment going down means ~5% or more, then I suppose they could feel as if nothing has changed. It's in recovery, however slow that recovery may be chugging along.

    And as far as the OP is concerned, if a McDonalds is actually requiring a bachelor's degree for consideration, I'd say you could chalk that up to store failure rather than economic failure.
    Last edited by Badpaladin; 2012-08-20 at 02:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typrax View Post
    The reason I've started wondering is because I recently had an interview at a McDonalds, and I asked the manager how many people where going to be hired. He told me that he had interviewed over 30 people for 2 positions. Apparently you now need a bachelors degree to flip hamburgers.


    Yea.
    This is a rare circumstance perhaps based on your region. There are plenty of jobs. Every friend and relative I know who desires to work is currently working. Jobs are out there in large numbers. I've had plenty of jobs during this "recession." I could quit my current job and find another by tomorrow. Perhaps where I live is an anomaly but I don't see this "McDonalds requires a bachelors degree" situation you are going on about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    True, but it isn't the sort of catastrohpic pre-meltdown levels that people tend to think when they see the sheer magnitude of the number. I mean Japan's still chugging alone just (kinda) fine. Not to say that serious political change isn't necessary, though. And the sooner the eaiser/less painful it will be on everyone, but yeah.
    I doubt the US will truly ever collapse it is one of the worlds leaders and the collapse of the US damages every economy tremendously. They wouldn't allow us to collapse, the countries whose economy depends on ours anyway. If we go, Canada would have a few problems considering we are their number 1 customers and most of their import and export business comes from us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    If the warfare spending madness won't stop anytime soon, yes. The countries economy will collapse..

    What that madness looks like...
    Check here: http://www.iiss.org/publications/mil...ce-statistics/

    More charts: http://www.globalfirepower.com/
    The industrial-military complex is basically a giant, inefficient, gov't subsidized jobs program which then gives dumb politicians the ability to do dumb things like invade and occupy other countries without sufficient cause.

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    Unfortunately the military spending bit is never going to go away, at least not until the older group of Republicans (and some Democrats) retires and is replaced by younger politicians who realize it's a huge waste. Aside from being a sacred cow, there are simply too many rich people (as a result of our military budget) who have their hands in politics to ensure they don't decrease their business or profitability.

    We've also got plenty of other problems that could be more easily addressed right now.

  13. #53
    The defense spending of the US is completely backwards in economical therms.
    When you have the strongest economy, you can afford to spend less % of GDP for defense and still have the biggest military budget.
    With $14.4 trillion GDP, you could spend 2% of GDP for defense ($288 billion) and still have a bigger military budget in the world. 2% of GDP for defense ($288 billion) means double the defense budget of China ($144 billion) and 4 times the defense budget of Russia ($71 billion).
    Last edited by haxartus; 2012-08-20 at 03:12 PM.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Huh? How does that follow?
    I get this odd feeling that unless this guy is living in Haiti his claim and premise of this thread is pure bullshit. Pretty sure if he gave me city/state I could link a job site that has a listing for his area.

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    The US has plenty of money

    The question is who has it

    im sorry but taxes need to rise i come from a country of high taxation (i live in the US now) so im used to that shit

    You guys have had it too easy tax wise basically the waiter is coming and its now time to pay the bill your parents gave you

    2 wars low taxes etc its gonna be a hard pill to swallow

    but im a socialist so i dont give a shit payin as long as my money goes to those who need it and not those who dont1!!!!

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    >Country has a larger debt than the actual amount of money in the world

    > People defend their government

    Thats why people believe negative stereotypes about the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combooticus View Post
    The US has plenty of money

    The question is who has it

    im sorry but taxes need to rise i come from a country of high taxation (i live in the US now) so im used to that shit

    You guys have had it too easy tax wise basically the waiter is coming and its now time to pay the bill your parents gave you

    2 wars low taxes etc its gonna be a hard pill to swallow

    but im a socialist so i dont give a shit payin as long as my money goes to those who need it and not those who dont1!!!!
    Taxing isn't going to pay a 11 TRILLION USD fucking debt

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    It wont but it sure will bring it down

    but we all know that decrease spending is what will decrease the budget

    but the question is what do you cut in spending?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Methanar View Post
    >Country has a larger debt than the actual amount of money in the world

    > People defend their government

    Thats why people believe negative stereotypes about the US.

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    Taxing isn't going to pay a 11 TRILLION USD fucking debt
    Because the national debt is completely irrelevant. First world governments are a crucial part in investing into new markets that the private sector can't do in the 21st century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    I don't think the US economy is looking at total collapse anytime soon. The level of debt is concerning, but we've been at higher debt levels before (as a percentage of GDP) and shortly thereafter was the longest period of sustained growth in US history.
    I'm not an expert on the subject, but from what I gather, the peaks in the dept levels (WW1 and WW2) seems logical, warfare is expensive. The growth after these wars you talk about might have something to do with the fact that the US competitors (Germany, Japan) were bombed and had to rebuild, leaving an open market for the US. This isn't the case today now that they have both rebuilt, and offer same or better stuff at same or lower prices. I suppose that's the reason for the steady climb in the US dept since the 80's (or thereabouts).

    Though as I said, I'm not an expert on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combooticus View Post
    It wont but it sure will bring it down

    but we all know that decrease spending is what will decrease the budget

    but the question is what do you cut in spending?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar..._United_States


    Having your military budget increase by 3% per year when your debt is larger than the entire world's gdp is a good start.

    Or ending the "war of drugs" or the "put pot heads in jail for 15 years"

    Not privatising education so your workforce is about as intelligent as Mongolia's

    Getting WAY stricter laws on who is allowed to become a politician and preventing the uneducated people who know nothing more than "derp hes christian" from voting.

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