How does most people on the internet view themselves?

[Deleted]

I have noticed the dare that many people here step into 'deep' topics and i'm surprised(/putting the flamebait on the hook)

What i see is people not only having an opinion about litterally everything,ranging from politics,history,economy,personal relations,dating,work outs,video games,science topics etc

So i'd like to ask for an honest reply to the people that have debated over the above topics,what do you know about them?
for example:

the people that are often engaging debates about free market vs socialism/communism/mixed systems,where is your knowledge based on,do you have at least a bachelor on the topic?

the people that talk about space exploration,and technology,do you have a degree on maths,physics,chemistry,biology?

the people that give advice about excersises and nutrition,have you ever participated in athletic events?

the peole that give dating advice to strangers,how succesfull is your own personal life?

the people that open topics about international relationships,what do you know about the countries that you are talking about?for instance often people refer to Iran,have you ever been to Iran,do you know about it's economy/demographics/authorities/history? do you know it's exact location on the map,with who it borders with,what are it's relationships with them?

if the above asnwers are no,where the fuck do you find the certainty to use phrases like:1)my favo: you're obviously clueless,2)you don't know what you're taling about,3)take your ignorance elsewhere,4)stop spreading misinformation you get the idea, do you debate like that in your real life?



Judging from the way people talk here one would assume that if all of them are to be believed the average forum lurker is something close to homo-universalis, with a main interest on discusing philosophy,solving complex mathematical problems whe he's resting and bench-pressing 180kg to clear his head(if he's no having his montly marathon run),oh and ofc so pro at wow it hurts

and lastly how arrogant one must be to be like 25 years old have an opinion on all those topics and be absolutely certain that he's right

summarising: arrogance sucks even more than ignorance,and i enjoy constructive trolling...

[Vizardlorde]

Hmmm I didn't know that knowledge required a degree. I guess we all need master degrees to read a newspaper, a book, watch documentaries or to learn trivia facts, oops I'm not qualified to reply since I don't have a degree yet I'll post back in a couple of years.

[Deleted]

You know, college is not the only place to learn, and now days there are many things you can look into if you're interested. And college degree doesn't mean much really. Maybe you should go to college and you would see that you wouldn't learn much, sure you learn some things but if you really want to learn something, search for that yourself all over.

[LocNess]

We argue because we have this resource called the internet that, believe it or not, gives us access to hundreds of thousands of sources for us to look up and use.

The internet is an infinite source of knowledge, it really doesn't matter that we don't know in advance because we can look up information and get an opinion from it.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

the people that are often engaging debates about free market vs socialism/communism/mixed systems,where is your knowledge based on,do you have at least a bachelor on the topic?

No, but my brother is studying economics, and I know about the political systems from my final years in school in the humanities subjects such as history, geography and philosophy.

the people that talk about space exploration,and technology,do you have a degree on maths,physics,chemistry,biology?

I took advanced classes in chemistry and biology and since leaving school have read many books on physics

the people that open topics about international relationships,what do you know about the countries that you are talking about?for instance often people refer to Iran,have you ever been to Iran,do you know about it's economy/demographics/authorities/history? do you know it's exact location on the map,with who it borders with,what are it's relationships with them?

I like to believe I have informed myself sufficiently to talk about a country's politics, religion, society and economic environment.

if the above asnwers are no,where the fuck do you find the certainty to use phrases like:1)my favo: you're obviously clueless,2)you don't know what you're taling about,3)take your ignorance elsewhere,4)stop spreading misinformation you get the idea, do you debate like that in your real life?

I don't say that kind of thing. I simply tell people WHY they are wrong and where they can find information to learn something about the subject at hand.

Judging from the way people talk here one would assume that if all of them are to be believed the average forum lurker is something close to homo-universalis, with a main interest on discusing philosophy,solving complex mathematical problems whe he's resting and bench-pressing 180kg to clear his head(if he's no having his montly marathon run),oh and ofc so pro at wow it hurts

Generalizing sucks, don't you agree?

and lastly how arrogant one must be to be like 25 years old have an opinion on all those topics and be absolutely certain that he's right

Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to be relatively well informed on many subjects by the time you are in your mid-twenties. It is called "being interested".

summarising: arrogance sucks even more than ignorance,and i enjoy constructive trolling...

You seem to be fairly arrogant in your assumption that you need a BA/BSc in a topic to be able to contribute to a discussion.

[Adam Jensen]

Just because I don't have a BS in astrophysics doesn't mean I can't learn things from Neil deGrasse Tyson or Michio Kaku. And it doesn't mean I can't use their arguments in an online debate.

[juzalol]

People who are posting comments on these subjects spend most of their time
surfing the internet instead of running after a ball outside.

And even if they don't really know what they are talking about they can still
give input and possibly give new ideas to those with enough knowledge on the
subject.

I mean posting total garbage claiming they are facts is okay as long as you are
willing to change your opinion on the matter when someone proves you wrong.

[Reeve]

I have noticed the dare that many people here step into 'deep' topics and i'm surprised(/putting the flamebait on the hook)

What i see is people not only having an opinion about litterally everything,ranging from politics,history,economy,personal relations,dating,work outs,video games,science topics etc

So i'd like to ask for an honest reply to the people that have debated over the above topics,what do you know about them?
for example:

the people that are often engaging debates about free market vs socialism/communism/mixed systems,where is your knowledge based on,do you have at least a bachelor on the topic?

the people that talk about space exploration,and technology,do you have a degree on maths,physics,chemistry,biology?

the people that give advice about excersises and nutrition,have you ever participated in athletic events?

the peole that give dating advice to strangers,how succesfull is your own personal life?

the people that open topics about international relationships,what do you know about the countries that you are talking about?for instance often people refer to Iran,have you ever been to Iran,do you know about it's economy/demographics/authorities/history? do you know it's exact location on the map,with who it borders with,what are it's relationships with them?

if the above asnwers are no,where the fuck do you find the certainty to use phrases like:1)my favo: you're obviously clueless,2)you don't know what you're taling about,3)take your ignorance elsewhere,4)stop spreading misinformation you get the idea, do you debate like that in your real life?



Judging from the way people talk here one would assume that if all of them are to be believed the average forum lurker is something close to homo-universalis, with a main interest on discusing philosophy,solving complex mathematical problems whe he's resting and bench-pressing 180kg to clear his head(if he's no having his montly marathon run),oh and ofc so pro at wow it hurts

and lastly how arrogant one must be to be like 25 years old have an opinion on all those topics and be absolutely certain that he's right

summarising: arrogance sucks even more than ignorance,and i enjoy constructive trolling...

Probably 98% of my knowledge I learned outside the university.

[Jakexe]

People are allowed to have an opinion, their opinion can be as wrong as calling a gas a liquid but they're allowed to say it and then get called out on it for being wrong. However saying something like this game is bad and someone saying no it isn't is perfectly opinion based.

More OT, I talk politics because I follow it, I talk history because I read on it, I don't talk economics because I'll clueless about it, I talk relations, workouts, video games because I've experienced them and I talk science because I have a bach of science.

I don't question another's knowledge unless they make a glaring mistake and I don't call them a retard when they do.

Basically, I comment on what I think I'm able to comment on if someone is asking for advice, if they're asking for an opinion than I give my opinion.

[Deleted]

As a God because that is what I am.

[Themius]

You seem to be talking about sociology issues within this internet forum.

So I am assuming you either:

A) Have a degree with sociology
B) Have a degree in psychology
C) Arrogant

At least according to your scale.

[Vanero]

I usually avoid stepping into topics where I don't know the subject that well. However, I immensely enjoy reading lots of the topics that pop up because they're enriching. So many posters have ideals and opinions from outside the USA, so it's really neat to be able to hear what they have to say. As an example, I never really had an opinion on gun law until I came to MMO-C. While I still haven't formed an opinion on gun laws yet, I can say that I am a lot better informed about them after reading through the debates and the sources people post up.

I would say that I only have a bit of expertise in writing, English, education and mass-communications. However, not many topics appear about these four subjects that often. So I guess I just read and lurk most of the time.

It doesn't help that forums are often times more hilarious to read than BBC articles.

[Cthulhu 2020]

A university degree certifies that you have knowledge of a particular subject, it does not mean that others who do not have this degree do not possess this knowledge as well.

[Khanjin]

Wow... So I need some kind of certified degree to discuss topics like space exploration and technology? I guess I should take 3 years of astrophysics at university to get that certificate even though I can look up stuff from reliable sources online from people who are astrophysicists. I've got a degree in sociology, does that mean I'm only allowed to discuss topics that specifically was brought up and certified during my education? Man, what a miserable life you must live, OP. That sounds horrible.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Wow... So I need some kind of certified degree to discuss topics like space exploration and technology? I guess I should take 3 years of astrophysics at university to get that certificate even though I can look up stuff from reliable sources online from people who are astrophysicists. I've got a degree in sociology, does that mean I'm only allowed to discuss topics that specifically was brought up and certified during my education? Man, what a miserable life you must live, OP. That sounds horrible.

Not like he is likely to return to this thread...

[calculating]

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[vindicatorx]

Well, generally speaking I have had multiple classes in economics macro, micro, and some other one so I have a fair knowledge of economics. I have also taken 2 US government classes and 2 in international politics, one focused on how the larger countries run their government, and one that was aimed at international policy making. I have had algebra, statistics, finite math, calculus, and I am in my second algorithm logic class. Am I an expert in any of these areas? No. Can I still spot a person who read an article on Fox News and has no actual knowledge of a subject? A lot of times yes.

The thing about people on the internet is you have to be able to determine who is using facts and not personal feelings to guide what they are saying. Saying you feel that something is wrong/right/whatever without providing a logical reason other than your feelings doesn't add merit to your side.

[Bearshield]

A university degree certifies that you have knowledge of a particular subject, it does not mean that others who do not have this degree do not possess this knowledge as well.

^ This. You only learn so much in school, and what you do get is dependent on 2 things:

1. How much you care about the given subject
2. How much your teacher/professor cares about the given subject.

People learn from a variety of ways outside of schools, including reading and experience. No piece of paper from a school can ever replace actual experience and I don't know what schools in other countries are like, but in the US, college teachers are often biased and will only tell you what they want you to believe. So in the end it still comes down to you having to do some research/studying on your own to really learn about a particular subject.

As for the name calling on these forums, you are dealing with a lot of young people and many teenagers go through a phase where they 'know everything'. A mature adult (note I said mature and not just an adult) will freely admit they do not know everything as there is ALWAYS more to learn. That's not to say there aren't plenty of adults who think they know it all (trust me, I know more than a few people like that), but it's very common as teenagers seek to separate themselves from the child they were not too long ago.

That being said, even if you come across as a blooming idiot in a discussion with me, I'd rather explain to you why you're wrong then simply tell you you're full of crap. Likewise, I'm not too proud to admit when I'm wrong or less than knowledgeable about a subject.

[La]

no, of course you don`t need a degree to discuss things, and you can say you don`t need those things but here`s the thing, if you`re talking to someone who specializes in something or has a degree in something in college and you`re sitting there talking to them in person about what they specialize in, you won`t have the internet to look shit up. sure, you might know a lot of things, but believe me you know far less and would just leave any argument with someone who would know everything you know and more. i don`t see why you`re treating college with the attitude that "i can be as smart as someone with a college degree, even if it`s their area of expertise" because you have the internet, saw it in a movie, heard someone else say it before. and knowing and talking about something isn`t the same as UNDERSTANDING what you are even saying. i`ve had people do that to me before, sometimes they`re people who can`t look past themselves. but the topics that are discussed, in general on here, anyone who is intelligent will be able to discuss it anyway. it`s funny how some people express their opinions on something, and regardless of how dumb, or stupid or ignorant it is, it`s their opinion so it can`t be wrong. opinions can be wrong, just not general ones like "do you like this game, or not."

[Gandrake]

knowledge =/= intelligence

If you put a bomb in someone's hands and told them it was going to explode in 10 seconds, that information would not dictate which direction it would be thrown in.