Got a question for D3 players.

[antonatsis]

So i dont play D3 but i want to ask this

Dont you guys believe that RMAH will ruin the PvP aspect of the game?I mean it isnt implemented yet and Diablo is a hack and slash loot game,so whats the point in doing PvP in a heavy gear based game when you can buy the gear?

[Resentful]

Yeah of course It's going to ruin it; It's basically Pay 2 win.

[Dispirit]

there's going to be a matchmaking system that should be facing only people with similar gear against each other...that said i really don't care what other people do with their money. i enjoy the game no matter what.

[poogle]

While it will to a degree, it won't be any worse than what happens in games like WoW where people can easily buy a carry to get uber gear.

The whole paragon level thing will make a difference too, people investing a tonne of time will probably gain a 10-15% stat point advantage.

[klaps_05]

i heard buying all the gear all of rmah makes you the best at your class

[antonatsis]

While it will to a degree, it won't be any worse than what happens in games like WoW where people can easily buy a carry to get uber gear.

The whole paragon level thing will make a difference too, people investing a tonne of time will probably gain a 10-15% stat point advantage.

well the diference is that,in WoW which is an MMO with action elements as most MMOs out there,sometimes you can outmaneuvere the oponet so you have skill as a factor(not much but its there)In a point and click game,how can you react to that,especially if you keep losing by people that have gear from the AH,wont that make you feel bad or even worse damags the community?

---------- Post added 2012-08-20 at 11:57 PM ----------

i heard buying all the gear all of rmah makes you the best at your class

its a point and click game.

[Moinaldo]

well the diference is that,in WoW which is an MMO with action elements as most MMOs out there,sometimes you can outmaneuvere the oponet so you have skill as a factor(not much but its there)In a point and click game,how can you react to that,especially if you keep losing by people that have gear from the AH,wont that make you feel bad or even worse damags the community?

While I get your point, we have no idea how they will balance things for PVP... there were some good ideas from pro players as to "even" gear when you enter PVP or just cap some stats...

[antonatsis]

While I get your point, we have no idea how they will balance things for PVP... there were some good ideas from pro players as to "even" gear when you enter PVP or just cap some stats...

but wont that destroy the aspect that made Diablo(the franchice)famous?The endless grind for better gear?I mean if you have the cap for PvP why farm for anything else?

[Resentful]

While I get your point, we have no idea how they will balance things for PVP... there were some good ideas from pro players as to "even" gear when you enter PVP or just cap some stats...

Why cap anything? It's a Diablo game; Just like D1 D2 and such they didn't do a dam thing to ruin PVP

[Deleted]

Didn't ruin my experience, but yeah Didn't play as much as others.. But I had my fun xD

[antonatsis]

Didn't ruin my experience, but yeah Didn't play as much as others.. But I had my fun xD

Iam talking for the PVP part,not the PVE.It cant ruin your PVE experience since you dont compete with someone in farming :P

[nightshark]

No, I don't think it does.

But that's only because I think PvP is going to be stupid in D3 anyway. You can pretty much tell if you can beat someone by looking at their character profile.

[antonatsis]

No, I don't think it does.

But that's only because I think PvP is going to be stupid in D3 anyway. You can pretty much tell if you can beat someone by looking at their character profile.

well i suppoce there are many D3 players that actually wait for the PVP patch.So i assume there are a lot of players that do care about it :P Bad or good only time will tell even thought iam on your side :P

[Pendulous]

No, I don't think it does.

But that's only because I think PvP is going to be stupid in D3 anyway. You can pretty much tell if you can beat someone by looking at their character profile.

By that same logic, you might as well hand PvP titles to people in WoW. Skill is always a factor.

[nightshark]

By that same logic, you might as well hand PvP titles to people in WoW. Skill is always a factor.

I didn't play WoW, though I was interested in arenas because a RL friend I played UO with was obsessed with them.

From my understanding, there was a PvP grind to go through to obtain the "best pvp gear" for your character. D3 is randomly dropped stuff; you can't do the same grind and thus even at the high levels there will be large disparities in gear. Look at Athene for example... 182k unbuffed DPS with 600k EHP. That would 1 shot my ~150m gold worth of gear and probably take 6 shots from me. Absolutely no competition even if a blind person was playing his character. He could literally go afk with an automated program spamming hungering arrow and it would kill 99% of people.

[Morogoth]

Unless they let us create PvP public games, PvP will be shit.

[Nerraw]

Skill > gear.

Also, it's been mentioned before the the matchmaking will take these things into consideration.

[Morogoth]

Skill > gear.

Also, it's been mentioned before the the matchmaking will take these things into consideration.

To be honest, I don't think skill will be a factor in Diablo PvP. It's all about gear.

[Nerraw]

To be honest, I don't think skill will be a factor in Diablo PvP. It's all about gear.

Even if that is the case, then the system will notice that you might not win as much if you have less gear, and then just match you with likewise-geared opponents.

[melodramocracy]

Yes, yes it will. Even with the matchmaking system in place. Then again, pvp is an afterthought in this game, and there will be insane amounts of posts once folks realize how much of an advantage class x has over class y, before gear even comes into the picture.

I'd assume that no one would actually take it seriously, but I'm sure I'll be wrong.