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    Monk on cloth heirlooms

    Is there a substancial disadvantage in doing it? I don't want realm first though I wouldn't want to have a 40% handicap or something. Up to 10% is fine I guess.
    Last edited by fateswarm; 2012-08-21 at 11:57 AM.

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    you can do it, no real problem.
    Though people will yell at you in dungeons from time to time..
    I leveled my rogue with a str cape, and my DK partially in leather heirlooms..
    At low level it really doesn't make that much of a difference..


    Though farming the JP for heirlooms is quite easy and you can get the full set in a week or something.
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    you can look at it in this way: if an heirloom has +10% xp but no useful stats, just consider if you are losing more than 10% dps by using that heirloom. if you are, then don't use it during combat (use it for quest turnins tho).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    you can look at it in this way: if an heirloom has +10% xp but no useful stats
    It has useful stats. I meant healer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fateswarm View Post
    It has useful stats. I meant healer.
    armor bonus only comes at lvl 50 (5% extra stats) so leather only gives additional benefit above that.

    Just use the looms until they don't give the exp bonus. Gear doesn't matter up until that point and killing stuff faster or less fast usually doesn't outweigh downtime that is always the same, you'll reach end level sooner with looms even if they are cloth.

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    The bonus stats granted by Leather Specialization really aren't that much of a gain until much later in the game, when 5% really counts for something.

    If you're doing dungeons as a level 50, and you're missing say, 10 intellect from not having all leather, then you're fine. But at level 80-ish, where 5% of your Intellect could be upwards of 100, then it really starts to matter for the sake of numbers.

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    If you level as Mistweaver in the Cloth Heirlooms then you'll have no problem.

    If you level as any other spec in Cloth however, and use "Full Heirlooms" that's a lot of wasted stats and you will notice it. Especially when you transition expansions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fateswarm View Post
    It has useful stats. I meant healer.
    Cloth gear will be fine, even all the way to 80 (and 85 with Helm/Cloak).

    I've used the Cloth gear for all my "Casters" with zero issues. Maybe the odd comment in LFD, but nothing more than "why are you using cloth?".

    Saved a lot of JP farming.
    Last edited by Dakara; 2012-08-22 at 01:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakara View Post
    "why are you using cloth?".
    I almost enjoy such comments; while they try to sound smart they miss obvious things. yes, it might be 5% disadvantage but when they mock it appears to be missing that it's not 100% disadvantage.

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    You have more than a month to get the heirlooms fit for the monks. Lazy much ?

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    Upto level 60 it wont matter at all since it takes no effort for quests or dungeons. After that you will see an increase in people whineing at you in dungeons but as long as your not tanking as a warriorin cloth or anything ridiculous like that again it shouldnt be a big problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fateswarm View Post
    Is there a substancial disadvantage in doing it? I don't want realm first though I wouldn't want to have a 40% handicap or something. Up to 10% is fine I guess.
    why is this an issue for some people? extra 5% int isint jack at lvl50~80. and if your doing dps in cloth i can understand where they are coming from. as for healing its perfectly fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askian View Post
    Upto level 60 it wont matter at all since it takes no effort for quests or dungeons. After that you will see an increase in people whineing at you in dungeons but as long as your not tanking as a warriorin cloth or anything ridiculous like that again it shouldnt be a big problem.
    'Lol'ing is more likely, for being too lazy to get more appropriate looms - I have sets for all except agility leather as I do not ever see myself playing rogue/feral dps, or in the future, dps or tank monk

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    Stop the personal attacks calling people lazy. Some of us talk about optimal use of our time. You have the time to get 800 heirlooms, fine. None of us deserves to be called lazy without provocation. You have time, fine. Some us don't.

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    If you're healing you shouldn't really notice a difference, 5% of 100 or 200 is pretty marginal. As long as nobody is dying it really doesn't matter.
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    The benefits of heirlooms (xp boost) outweigh the specializations imo, especially if it isn't a stat clash (eg Windwalker/Brewmaster wearing the Intellect heirlooms)

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    By the way, partially off topic, do those monk healers dps satisfactory? For example, as good as disc priests are? *disc priests are pretty good for single target dps in levelling.

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    You will be able to do ok DPS, what I would suggest is while you are soloing go into Tiger's Stance so that you are using energy instead of mana and get some extra damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistfit View Post
    You will be able to do ok DPS, what I would suggest is while you are soloing go into Tiger's Stance so that you are using energy instead of mana and get some extra damage.
    Do those attacks only need intellect?

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