Last edited by Reith; 2012-08-27 at 07:53 PM.
It's not about "What hits harder" it's about what you get out of your usage of them.
If you're using TV at 3HP each time you're not gaining the maximum amount of HP you can be over the course of a fight. So, sure you're using your highest damaging spell as soon as it's up, but you're not gaining as many of them through out the fight as you could be. Now, once again we aren't saying you don't want to wait to wait to use TV with 5HP EVERY time, if your other spells are on CD and you have a free GCD, use TV we don't expect you to stand around.
The point is to NEVER use a HP generator at 5HP (when you can't receive a point), and never put off a HP generator when you have room to benefit from it (when you can receive it), unless of course you'll immediately benefit from the damage of the TV (i.e killing blows).
Last edited by Krekko; 2012-08-27 at 11:48 PM.
What is this brain-fart day? At least this isn't as bad as the guy posting on Elitist Jerks asking why a a shorter global cooldown on TV is a dps gain.
I guess I'm still in the 3 HP mindset...
So what you're saying is that if you follow up the 5 HP mindset(less empty GCDs, more HP generator usage), you'll find yourself using TV more often in the long run and allow yourself to use TV or something else when you would find yourself sitting there with the 3 HP mindset, correct?
If this is the case, then many thanks. I'll just have to adjust to the new mindset asap. :P
I was under the impression that you'd find yourself sitting there regardless of both situations, but I see I am wrong. So you sacrifice early usage of TV so you can use it more in the long run. Is this the same case for short fights, such as trash?
is it true that holy shock is baseline now? if yes, is it too weak to use in a rotation?
generally, how is playing a ret with instant exorcsim, holy shock (?), holy prism ( lvl 90 ranged talent) and glyphed word of glory? did ret finally get a compensation with those ranged abilities, for not having a real gap closer and stuff?
not that i ever want to return to wow, but this seems to be the ret that should have launched in cata, without the incompetent mistakes.
Does the word of glory glyph work with the glyph of harsh words ?
How hard does word of glory hit compared to templars verdict?
With CS(4.5sec CD), J(6sec CD), How(6sec CD), Exo (15sec CD[resettable]) generating holy power, you could very well be able to maintain 100% uptime on the +9% DMG buff, at least during the last 20% of a boss fight, amiright?
Any thoughts ?
No, the glyph only works when you heal. But Harsh Word of Glory still hits pretty hard. Yeah below 20% we have quite a few ranged attacks. You could also have a druid give you Wrath via symbiosis for even more ranged damage.
Strictly speaking, HWoG doesn't hit as hard as TV even without mastery. Just tested with my 85 beta char - 27k HWoG with Inq, 30k TV not including another 15k from mastery and a seal proc on top of that. Plust HWoG doesn't trigger the WoG glyph.
There are no situations in all of DS where using HWoG is a good idea. On Morchok you can stay in the black and even if you couldn't it would be better to hold on to the Holy Power - you won't generate 5 holy power in a black phase. No significant downtime on Zon, Yor, Hagara, Ultrax, Blackhorn, Spine, or Madness.
Last edited by Balhale; 2012-08-28 at 06:58 AM.
Yes, I realize there really isn't any use to Harsh Words is the vast majority of DS - Morchok was really the only decent example for those that may not be geared enough eat the Black Blood, or whose healers are either not geared enough to save them or are simply too lazy to do so.There are no situations in all of DS where using HWoG is a good idea. On Morchok you can stay in the black and even if you couldn't it would be better to hold on to the Holy Power - you won't generate 5 holy power in a black phase. No significant downtime on Zon, Yor, Hagara, Ultrax, Blackhorn, Spine, or Madness.
Alright! I've updated the guide a bit with a few things and am getting a few things started.
A profession guide.
Gems (MoP gems only)
and a couple of things about. I'll try to get most spells linked as well. If you find anything leads where it's not meant to please tell me!
And in honor of patch day, this is now the 5.0 Ret sticky!