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  1. #1341
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    Anyone knows if someone have any plans on making an updated guardian guide for WOD?

    I'm thinking about it, but if someone else are working on it then it would kinda feel like a waste of time to also start making one.

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    Theincbear has guide for guardian tanking: http://www.theincbear.com/forums/vie...php?f=9&t=1324 and gear guide http://www.theincbear.com/forums/vie...php?f=9&t=1325 and general what stuff to use for X HM fights: http://www.theincbear.com/encounter-...eroic-highmaul
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    The curse of the Bear, the only tank whose active mitigation not only has RNG included, but only consists of RNG.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnillon View Post
    Theincbear has guide for guardian tanking: http://www.theincbear.com/forums/vie...php?f=9&t=1324 and gear guide http://www.theincbear.com/forums/vie...php?f=9&t=1325 and general what stuff to use for X HM fights: http://www.theincbear.com/encounter-...eroic-highmaul
    Yir i know, but wanted to know if someone had plans to make anything for MMO-Champ

  4. #1344
    Can we get a Guardian guide here sometimes? Theincbear is nice and all.. but it's kinda silly to have nothing on this website. I'd write one myself but I dont feel like i'd be very well-placed since I don't get to tank anymore ;/

  5. #1345
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreyen View Post
    Can we get a Guardian guide here sometimes? Theincbear is nice and all.. but it's kinda silly to have nothing on this website. I'd write one myself but I dont feel like i'd be very well-placed since I don't get to tank anymore ;/
    Arielle isnt active on curse content because of internal issues. Nobody has stepped up since. I think most have given up tbh.
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  6. #1346
    Maybe a stupid idea but since it looks like a guide for Guardians is highly requested why don't we form a kind of group that can write it instead of keep asking?

  7. #1347
    Trinket question.

    I have Evergaze Arcane Eidolon, Pol's Blinded Eye, both mythic.
    And the Tectus trinket, heroic.

    Which ones are better for most fights, both the mythic ones?

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    Yea, use the two mythic trinkets, they are really strong. Tectus' trinket can be helpful if you feel like you don't have enough hp though.

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    More health is always great.

    But still want an updated guide here.
    Someone make a new one and edit as you get suggestions.

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    Is the Tablet of Turnbuckle Teamwork (heroic) better then Pol's Blind Eye (Mythic WF)? My second trinket is Pillar of Earth (heroic), which I don't want to drop cause the stamina is a must have for me....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totaltotemic View Post
    The curse of the Bear, the only tank whose active mitigation not only has RNG included, but only consists of RNG.


  11. #1351
    Not really a fan of the flat stam trinkets. We have a lot of hp already, and ursa major gives us a good boost now and again (really strong when tanking multiple mobs).
    I'm using pol's and the door. I think BA is better as a flat amount, mastery is better as an on use. Mastery gives a great boost to survivability and damage, having it on use is awesome when you're in a tough spot. BA is amazing, but on procs doesn't really impact survivability (maybe 3-4%), the AP component is also flat, so not as powerful as mastery can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CenariusTheForestLord View Post
    Not really a fan of the flat stam trinkets. We have a lot of hp already, and ursa major gives us a good boost now and again (really strong when tanking multiple mobs).
    I disagree on the stamina part, that's why I asked. I just feel that most of the time my HP is far from enough, even when having SI up for something "trivial" as Inferno Slice or whatnot ability on H&F which slaps 2 tanks together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totaltotemic View Post
    The curse of the Bear, the only tank whose active mitigation not only has RNG included, but only consists of RNG.


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    To put some personal experience into the discussion, I died twice on mythic Gruul this week while soaking the slices on our re-clear of BRF when normally it's just a walk in the park. Now, what does this have to do with stamina trinkets? I've been relying on multistrike -> Ursa Major to increase my HP for the specific set of CD's I use on the fight to soak the slices, and twice in one night I had bad RNG where my Ursa Major refreshed late, dropping my HP by over 100k just before I soaked and incidentally killed me. This goes back to what I've said about Ursa Major not being as reliable as stamina, because it can change at any given moment unless you literally stop doing anything that can proc Ursa major. If you need that extra health, you're better off relying on a stamina trinket versus crossing your fingers and hoping multistrikes don't go against you.
    *Since I'm tired of reposting the link:* EH vs TTL and Hybrid Tax

  14. #1354
    And that's part of the reason why Guardians aren't being used in cutting edge progression.

    SD is rng.

    UM is rng.

    T&C is rng.

    DoC is rng.

    Mastery is great and when you combine all 3 "AM"'s you're really unlikely to suddenly drop dead... but there's still a chance. Other tanks don't have that chance. Why gamble?

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    Damn, came here looking for good Guardian guide/discussion.

    Is guardian like completely dead on these forums?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vecayse View Post
    Damn, came here looking for good Guardian guide/discussion.

    Is guardian like completely dead on these forums?
    Might be shifted a page, but someone has been trying to make a start at an updated guide for 6.1 (non-stickied for now). Original author of this guide doesn't maintain the thread anymore due to various reasons. However, there's a bunch of us long-time informed Guardians still around and checking the forums if you have a question about anything.
    *Since I'm tired of reposting the link:* EH vs TTL and Hybrid Tax

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vecayse View Post
    Damn, came here looking for good Guardian guide/discussion.

    Is guardian like completely dead on these forums?
    We have a solid 8 (?) high end and semi-high end (I'm only 2/10 Mythic) bears browsing here regularly. Exo, Dreyen and Lyuben being the most active I think. If you need anything just make a thread and we'll pop up. The guides aren't really up to date because nobody has the time (And I'm not a big fan of the non-stickied one someone made a few weeks ago)
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