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Just wondering why I cant manage to use Incarn. + CA and/or starfall/any other on-use trinket in a macro, anyone else having this problem?
thanks in advance
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2012-09-04, 09:47 AM #1High Overlord
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Incarnation / Celestial Alignment questions
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2012-09-04, 09:49 AM #2Deleted
you shouldnt use them at the same time btw
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2012-09-04, 09:51 AM #3High Overlord
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I realize that, but purely from a burst/bg pvp perspective ...
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2012-09-04, 10:17 AM #4The Lightbringer
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Incarnation has the big global of shapeshifting while trinket and CA are off the gcd. Have you tried putting them in this order? CA-> Trink -> Inc-> Starfall ?
Cast sequences seem to be bugged also if you use that format.
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2012-09-05, 12:54 PM #5High Overlord
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haha oh dear, it seems with all the new abilities i've ran out of room for macros and spells
Gotta cut down on focus tar and focus cyc macros... using razor binds for heals etc too
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2012-09-05, 11:22 PM #6The Patient
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And why is that? You are supposed to be stacking CA and Incarnation.
Originally Posted by flowa
Lap just separate starfall and your on use pvp trinket into a separate macro. One macro for CA/Inc (it honestly is better to separate them) and one macro for Starfall/Trinket.Last edited by earthwormjim; 2012-09-06 at 12:40 AM.
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2012-09-05, 11:26 PM #7DeletedPvE or PvP? Or both? I am curious about this myself. Originally Posted by earthwormjim
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2012-09-06, 12:26 AM #8The Patient
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Should be both, you're buffing both of your dots with Incarnation which are further buffed by CA. There's no reason to stagger the buffs. Originally Posted by KachynaEU
Ideally you don't pop them at exactly the same time but you do stack them, instead you pop Incarnation after you just hit an eclipse, exhaust the eclipse energy to the neutral point, then pop CA. That way you'll have nearly 100% eclipsed incarnation.
In a bg though, you'll do insane burst anyway with both up.Last edited by earthwormjim; 2012-09-06 at 12:38 AM.
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2012-09-06, 05:12 AM #9Deleted
earth people said you should not pop em at the same time for the reason you just described.. even in PvP its a bad idea, you will lose 15s of incarnation if you do. ofc if your about to die go for it but then again ..your about to die..
so pop eclipse ->inc-> exhaust eclipse-Ca.. that way you have your "insane burst" for a longer period...
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2012-09-06, 06:40 AM #10Dreadlord
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Yes.. this is the right way to do it, both in pve and pvp, as for why the macro dosent work. Originally Posted by stX3
Both incarnation and starfall are on gcd, and if you are engi you cant use synapse springs and a trinket at the same time.IGN Joe FC: 1908 - 0405 - 5213
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2012-09-06, 09:50 AM #11The Patient
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Which is what I said. You are still stacking the buffs... Originally Posted by stX3
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2012-09-06, 10:26 PM #12High Overlord
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yeah was generally aimed at burst from a bg perspective...
Also has anyone figured out why we cant use these spells in simple macros or cast-sequences?
Sorry about the silly question, still not really working for me.~Vayuu
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2012-09-07, 08:44 AM #13The Patient
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It was explained earlier in the thread. Starfall and Incarnation are on the GCD, you'll either have to make a cast sequence and press the macro a couple times, or remove starfall from the macro. Originally Posted by Lap
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2012-09-07, 04:52 PM #14DeletedThat's what I have been doing Originally Posted by earthwormjim
Just out of curiosity? Is starfire bigger dps gain than wrath on celestial?
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2012-09-07, 05:33 PM #15The Lightbringer
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Yes by a lot
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2012-09-07, 10:13 PM #16Deletednormally i am starting on solar phase and when reaching lunar i activate incarnation and when I am done with lunar I use celestial and refresh moonfire and spamm starfire. I am still trying to max my dps out Originally Posted by Juvencus
if anyone has suggestions
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2012-09-07, 11:01 PM #17The Patient
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Starfire is designed to do more dps than wrath. Lunar is your single target dps eclipse, solar is your aoe eclipse. Originally Posted by KachynaEU
normally i am starting on solar phase and when reaching lunar i activate incarnation and when I am done with lunar I use celestial and refresh moonfire and spamm starfire. I am still trying to max my dps out if anyone has suggestions
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2012-09-08, 02:43 PM #18DeletedWhat about Astral communication? I have been using it pre fight.. would it make sense to use it during fight? Originally Posted by earthwormjim
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2012-09-10, 12:14 AM #19The Patient
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Only if there is a point in a fight where you cannot do any damage. Originally Posted by KachynaEU
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2012-09-10, 07:06 AM #20Stood in the Fire
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On a single-target boss fight, you want to be at 70-95 towards lunar (not in it). When the fight starts: Starfall -> Wrath -> [Entering Lunar] (Incarnation ->) Sunfire -> Moonfire -> Starsurges/Starfires -> Starfall when it drops off and Celestial Alignment when leaving Lunar eclipse. The reason for this is that you get 3 Starfalls and Nature's Grace. Originally Posted by KachynaEU
normally i am starting on solar phase and when reaching lunar i activate incarnation and when I am done with lunar I use celestial and refresh moonfire and spamm starfire. I am still trying to max my dps out if anyone has suggestions "Such insolence... such arrogance... must be PUNISHED!"
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