"It’s not the job of the artist to give the audience what the audience wants. If the audience knew what they needed, then they wouldn’t be the audience. They would be the artists. It is the job of artists to give the audience what they need."
— Alan Moore
Blizzard will never go back and I say good. This sort of elitism is the reason so many game communities are so negative.
Really you don't think "raiders" are the minority?
Let's let all the "raiders" pay the $15 a month and the rest of us are F2P...than we'll see what kind of content you get delivered. Good luck with that. The rest of us pay just as much as you so we should be able to see the same content.
"Give raiding back to the raiders. By taking away heroic raids!"
honestly? i don't see how that makes any sense to anyone.
if the "casuals" didn't raid normal modes, you wouldn't have any raids.
What would be the point of making one raid (that's on a heroic raid level)
that a minuscule amount of people will be able to clear, and deny it to the
rest of the player base when that would just piss them off and make you
lose you their buisness?
It's like selling a product at a baseball game you know only 30 people will
buy when you could have been selling something 3000 people would buy.
All this complaining is simply further proof that Blizzard could send each and every player a real-life wish-granting flying unicorn carrying a solid gold plate of chocolate chip cookies wrapped in hundred dollar bills, and someone would whine that Blizzard sucks for not letting them choose oatmeal raisin.
Back in BC, the model worked well and the sub numbers increased and increased. Past history points to backing up what I am saying. I cannot do anything about the people who put words in my mouth That were never said. That is just a weak way of trying to express an opinion.
here is my simple question
if there is three difficulties, LFR, Normal, Heroic, right? Heroic is essentially what you want, it would be your one difficulty, the end goal, what people strive to get better for, so they can experience it, not just do ezmode stuff, correct? okay, then tell me... why can`t you pretend that is the case now? LFR, normal, they don`t have to effect you at all, except how much you choose to let them.
back in TBC, the game was still GROWING, people were still LEARNING about the game, at some point some things in the world reach a point where growth is no longer possible in large scale. i was fortunate enough to raid hardcore and complete content, but I know the majority of people were stuck in kara the ENTIRE expansion, i know people who were stuck on lurker and could only farm loot reaver. the numbers didn`t increase because of the model that was in place, in fact if i had a choice now "would you play this game now or years ago in TBC" my answer would be now.Back in BC, the model worked well and the sub numbers increased and increased. Past history points to backing up what I am saying. I cannot do anything about the people who put words in my mouth That were never said. That is just a weak way of trying to express an opinion.
Last edited by La; 2012-09-07 at 04:42 PM.
Sorry, but this is, by definition, elitist. It is a question of supply and demand coupled with pure jealousy. The way it stands right now, raiders have access to rewards and difficulty levels that allow them to raid just as they did in the past. If there aren't enough people motivated to spend that kind of energy/effort into the game, then it is clearly not what the people who play the game "want." If however, you find that you are able to scrounge up the folks necessary to raid in the manner you want, again, there is absolutely no reason not to let casuals SEE the content and get rewards LESSER to the ones you get for Normal and Heroic versions of the raids.
Pure and simple elitism.
I was a hard-core raider through Wrath, then I got a job which prevented me from devoting as much time to the game. I welcome LFR wholeheartedly because it allowed me to participate and not just see videos of the end of the expansion. I fail to see how that in any way affects you other than immature jealousy.
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Youtube it if you dont agree swaggers!
This is what the thread is turning into^^!
What I have proposed is the model of BC, it worked and worked better than the current model (also by sub numbers) That is what I am asking for, what many wanted, casual people just cannot fathom that. What is the root of that? Why do they have those opinions that the numbers just do not back up?
People raided BC, they loved it...the numbers were huge expecting the expansion after that.
imo they should design heroic first then scale it down for normals and LFR (if that's not what they're doing already, i have no idea )
Also, raiding was never taken away from raiders. People who could barely clear Kara in TBC are not killing H Rag or wearing a Savior title even here at 35% nerf. The hardcore raiding community has only grown from the days of TBC, not shrunk
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