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    So i am going to buy a computer with pretty decent specs...

    I am going to buy a computer in the near future, and i'd like it to be able to run new games pretty well..

    I am willing to pay 900Euro/1350Dollars/7000kr... (Same thing)

    I am not sure of what is a good idea to do, and i figured you might have some advice on where to buy one, or perhaps a way to get more for my money...

    It should have atleast 8gb ram, 3 ghz processor dual-core or more.... And a good graphics card (I know little to nothing about graphics cards)

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    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£176.10 @ CCL Computers)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£109.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£89.28 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£87.99 @ Dabs)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (£293.60 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£64.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Power Supply: Corsair 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£52.92 @ Ebuyer)
    Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£12.58 @ CCL Computers)
    Total: £887.40
    (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-09 14:24 BST+0100)

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    Milkshakes build is really good for the money, it's worth the extra money for sure, I would personally get a 1 TB HDD instead of a fast 128GB SSD (or get both at the same time) 128GB just isn't a lot of space if you don't have any secondary storage option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caumen View Post
    Milkshakes build is really good for the money, it's worth the extra money for sure, I would personally get a 1 TB HDD instead of a fast 128GB SSD (or get both at the same time) 128GB just isn't a lot of space if you don't have any secondary storage option.
    It's not a suitable build for him, also bad choice with ivy and not going for sandy and 16gb of ram? why waste more than enough?
    Will post on for you buddy, give me a min. And of course norwegian prices.. asuming you have same prices as norway if not cheaper..

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    CPU : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=619274 1599 ,- KR
    CPU Cooler: http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=512803 545 ,- KR
    Motherboard : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=650757 1089 ,- KR
    RAM: http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=641124 379 ,- KR
    GPU : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=759357 2379 ,-KR
    Case : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=657719 699 ,- KR
    PSU : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=635819 569 ,- KR
    HDD : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=653050 599 ,- KR
    DVD : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=645800 169 ,- KR

    8027 ,- Total, remember, norway, sweden and denmark don't got the same prices as UK/US. That's why you get less bang for the buck..

    You could go down a noth on the GPU, Let's say 7870.
    GPU :http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=745704 2099. It'll save you around 200 KR and you'll be down at 7747. Go down one notch with the PSU
    PSU : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=635831 469. = 7647. can get it to fix the budget but you'll lose too much powah .

    Why I said that the one build was bad was mainly because it involved 16gb of ram and a ivy bridge.. makes no sense.. Ivy bridge is bad compared to a sandy bridge with a cooler. you can get the sandy much higher clock and less temps = more power for the buck and cheaper. The build you linked would be around 9500 at least in denmark
    Last edited by Kezotar; 2012-09-10 at 03:09 AM.

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    Better question, what do you actually plan to use this computer for? Blizzard games only? FPS games? ect? Are you willing to build your own computer or do you need a prebuilt? Do you need monitor/windows/mouse/keyboard?


    wow/SCII/Diablo ect are far more CPU bound then GPU

    BF3 ect tend to be more GPU bound

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkshake86 View Post
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£176.10 @ CCL Computers)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£109.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£89.28 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£87.99 @ Dabs)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (£293.60 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£64.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Power Supply: Corsair 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£52.92 @ Ebuyer)
    Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£12.58 @ CCL Computers)
    Total: £887.40
    (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-09 14:24 BST+0100)
    Since he didn't even say what the machine was for this is total overkill.
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    Thanks for your suggestions i really appreciate it...

    I was planning on playing partly Guild Wars 2 and when im with some friends perhaps some CoD or other FPS games... I am a little bit all round, i also play other games like skyrim for example...

    They don't run well on regular laptops..

    I don't plan on frapsing my games so i don't think the 16GB RAM is needed tbh... I will take at look at it and see if i can figure something out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kezotar View Post
    It's not a suitable build for him, also bad choice with ivy and not going for sandy and 16gb of ram? why waste more than enough?
    Will post on for you buddy, give me a min. And of course norwegian prices.. asuming you have same prices as norway if not cheaper..

    ---------- Post added 2012-09-10 at 03:08 AM ----------

    CPU : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=619274 1599 ,- KR
    CPU Cooler: http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=512803 545 ,- KR
    Motherboard : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=650757 1089 ,- KR
    RAM: http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=641124 379 ,- KR
    GPU : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=759357 2379 ,-KR
    Case : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=657719 699 ,- KR
    PSU : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=635819 569 ,- KR
    HDD : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=653050 599 ,- KR
    DVD : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=645800 169 ,- KR

    8027 ,- Total, remember, norway, sweden and denmark don't got the same prices as UK/US. That's why you get less bang for the buck..

    You could go down a noth on the GPU, Let's say 7870.
    GPU :http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=745704 2099. It'll save you around 200 KR and you'll be down at 7747. Go down one notch with the PSU
    PSU : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=635831 469. = 7647. can get it to fix the budget but you'll lose too much powah .

    Why I said that the one build was bad was mainly because it involved 16gb of ram and a ivy bridge.. makes no sense.. Ivy bridge is bad compared to a sandy bridge with a cooler. you can get the sandy much higher clock and less temps = more power for the buck and cheaper. The build you linked would be around 9500 at least in denmark
    Well it would be my first time putting together my computer on my own... I have changed a harddisk and a graphics card before but haven't solved an entire computer... I think i might go for this build, I hope it is pretty straight forward...

    Also how much money do you think i spare by putting it together myself, and i do need software aswell, don't i?

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-05 at 08:12 AM ----------

    Also This might be a stupid question but i will ask anyway since i don't know... I have noticed how 64-bit seems to be the future of gaming, and such. My question is what is it that makes the difference between 32 and 63-bit? Is it software? Or hardware? Or both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amanaki View Post
    Thanks for your suggestions i really appreciate it...

    I was planning on playing partly Guild Wars 2 and when im with some friends perhaps some CoD or other FPS games... I am a little bit all round, i also play other games like skyrim for example...

    They don't run well on regular laptops..

    I don't plan on frapsing my games so i don't think the 16GB RAM is needed tbh... I will take at look at it and see if i can figure something out...

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-05 at 08:08 AM ----------



    Well it would be my first time putting together my computer on my own... I have changed a harddisk and a graphics card before but haven't solved an entire computer... I think i might go for this build, I hope it is pretty straight forward...

    Also how much money do you think i spare by putting it together myself, and i do need software aswell, don't i?

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-05 at 08:12 AM ----------

    Also This might be a stupid question but i will ask anyway since i don't know... I have noticed how 64-bit seems to be the future of gaming, and such. My question is what is it that makes the difference between 32 and 63-bit? Is it software? Or hardware? Or both?
    Don't skimp on the PSU, you will regret it. Get the Corsair AX650 or a similar GOLD certified PSU. You don't need more than 8GB of RAM, just get the cheapest you can find from corsair and overclock it.

    Also, you should buy your parts from cdon.dk as they have ASrock motherboards, a much better value for money than the z68 board that doesn't even have native USB 3.0 support and shitty sata 6gbps marvell ports. I have that board, bought it purely since it was newer than p67 and more tuned, but overall ivy is the better choice. Also, the Z77 boards gives "real" gen 3 PCI express support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amanaki View Post
    Also This might be a stupid question but i will ask anyway since i don't know... I have noticed how 64-bit seems to be the future of gaming, and such. My question is what is it that makes the difference between 32 and 63-bit? Is it software? Or hardware? Or both?
    64-bit handles large amounts of RAM access more effectively than 32-bit. Windows 7 32-bit is limited to work with up to 4GB of RAM where Windows 7 64-bit is limited to work with up to 192GB of RAM. You do need a 64-bit ready CPU, but all of the i3, i5 and i7 range from Intel is 64-bit ready if I recall correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemmiwink View Post
    Don't skimp on the PSU, you will regret it. Get the Corsair AX650 or a similar GOLD certified PSU. You don't need more than 8GB of RAM, just get the cheapest you can find from corsair and overclock it.

    Also, you should buy your parts from cdon.dk as they have ASrock motherboards, a much better value for money than the z68 board that doesn't even have native USB 3.0 support and shitty sata 6gbps marvell ports. I have that board, bought it purely since it was newer than p67 and more tuned, but overall ivy is the better choice. Also, the Z77 boards gives "real" gen 3 PCI express support.
    Well i was planning on getting a different PSU than the one he suggested, but else most of the other parts he linked seems pretty good...
    Aaaandd... I don't know how to overclock... How is it done? I have been using regular computers in all my 18 years, so this is kinda new to me...

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-05 at 10:10 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Cornish Forrestfield View Post
    64-bit handles large amounts of RAM access more effectively than 32-bit. Windows 7 32-bit is limited to work with up to 4GB of RAM where Windows 7 64-bit is limited to work with up to 192GB of RAM. You do need a 64-bit ready CPU, but all of the i3, i5 and i7 range from Intel is 64-bit ready if I recall correctly.
    Thx... I looked up on the CPU i think i will take and it was 64bit capable...

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-05 at 10:24 AM ----------

    I think i will take all the things Kezotar listed, exept for the PSU, i will take one that is a bit better...

    Now i am done with the Computer itself, i wanted to ask do you guys know of any cheap Screens out there?

    Would you consider this one decent? http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=752874

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-05 at 10:29 AM ----------

    Man this seems perhaps a bit too expensive if i add a Screen a Keyboard and a Mouse i + Delievery i end up close to 10.000kr.. That is perhaps a bit too much... Aww man.. :P

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-05 at 10:32 AM ----------

    In the end i am probably going to find a whole new build to get the prize a bit down and such...

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-05 at 12:23 PM ----------

    Now i can't decide if it is worth it to build my own PC, or to just buy this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883227435

    It should be able to run Guild Wars 2 on close to max settings... What do you think, it seems good for the price, and i am spared for all the work it takes to put it all together... The specs at first look seems pretty decent, if you disagree please let me know...

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    you will run GW2 close to max settings with that one, your fps on the other hand won't be that awesome...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amanaki View Post
    Aaaandd... I don't know how to overclock... How is it done? I have been using regular computers in all my 18 years, so this is kinda new to me...

    [/COLOR]Now i can't decide if it is worth it to build my own PC, or to just buy this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883227435
    Overclocking with the K series unlocked CPUs is extremely easy. Its a joke compared to what you used to have to do, easy to do if you follow a simple step by step guide.

    The problem with pre-built is that you pay a huge premium, up to 30%. A novice can assemble a computer in about 4 hours by carefully following a simple set of instructions. Moreover, self assembled computers will have parts with superior quality. You'd buy brand name recommended parts for a self assembled computer where as a pre-built computer will come with OEM parts, which are a toss up. The only time it is advised to buy pre-built is when it is heavily discounted, under ~$500 or when your time is exceptionally valuable to you. Assuming assembly takes 4 hours and you're buying a $700 at a 30% premium, your hourly rate would be $52.5. If you're making $52.5 or more an hour, you should be competent at assembling a computer.

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