What spec will you be leveling to 90 as?

[dotsown]

affliction, all the specs are decent though

[darkminaz]

demo with all talents and glyphs on passiv+dmg
the less cooldowns i have the more i can relax at leveling

first i wanted to go affli but all that dot run selfheal etc sounds like to mutch work when i can go gul'dan->shadowbolt spam and let the imps and my wrathguard do the shitty work

[Medelwr]

Will be going Affliction, SB:SS 4 targets, Drain Soul lowest HP target to get 4 Shards back and 20% hp, if Soulshard procs then it shall be used instead of draining soul!

I would say it is reasonable to assume that you always get to pull 5-6 targets with Affliction SB:SS due to the 5%chance of a Soulshard from Corruption tick's, that plus draining soul means you get to have unlimited Soulshards as long as you drain soul something thats dying.

I dont se how Demo and Destro can possibly beat out SB:SS doting in terms of multi-doting while lvling, i mean...even IF you can pull more as Demo, you still have to run, there are not 15 mobs in range of eachother to be pulled, so it serves no purpose to be ABLE to do that unless there are actually 15 mobs in range of eachother that wont reset before you pull them all.

Will be lvling with: Harvest Life, Mortal Coil, Soul Link, GoSac.

Think I'm missing something, why is everyone leveling with GoSac, wouldn't GoSup be better because of how sick a tank a voidlord is. Not sure how pulling 5-6 mobs would work when they're all hitting you and inturrupting you? Anyone explain this to me please!

[xskarma]

Think I'm missing something, why is everyone leveling with GoSac, wouldn't GoSup be better because of how sick a tank a voidlord is. Not sure how pulling 5-6 mobs would work when they're all hitting you and inturrupting you? Anyone explain this to me please!

No idea. And since GoSac only boosts the direct damage portion of your spells it's only an advantage if you use MG/Drain Soul all the time to kill stuff. I'm just going to go with Void Lord and make sure I'm not being beat on. Especially in the later levels that should work better then Sacrifice.

[Medelwr]

No idea. And since GoSac only boosts the direct damage portion of your spells it's only an advantage if you use MG/Drain Soul all the time to kill stuff. I'm just going to go with Void Lord and make sure I'm not being beat on. Especially in the later levels that should work better then Sacrifice.

That's along the lines of what I was thinking also. Still unsure if Soul leech will be better than HL just because of the passive healing off 5 mobs dotted up would mean no down time at all. Mortal coil Will probably be better than shadowfury because of the heal but I'd be worried about accidental pulls when the mob runs away feared. Soul link is the best of tier 3 imo when using void lord and soul leech togeather it's pretty sick.

[Miothan]

No idea. And since GoSac only boosts the direct damage portion of your spells it's only an advantage if you use MG/Drain Soul all the time to kill stuff. I'm just going to go with Void Lord and make sure I'm not being beat on. Especially in the later levels that should work better then Sacrifice.

So...you gona engage with Void Lord and kill mob 1 at a time? cause...he doesnt have an aoe taunt anymore, so what good is he if you plan on multidotting for faster killing of quest-mobs? Sure, you got suffering, but that a 1-target taunt and wont hold the threat on 2 targets unless you micro-manage, which is a pain in the ass while lvling, and besides, if you get Soul-link you get 20% more health when sacrificing a demon, which means more health returned from the passive 2% health regen.

Soul Leech: "Your Malefic Grasp, Drain Soul and Haunt spell, heals you and your pet for 20% of the damage dealt." Where is the passive healing there? you would have to stay still to actually channel the spells to be healed, and if you multidott, you will end up taking more damage than you get returned unless you are talking about using Harvest Life, which might be able to regen at a 1:1 ratio for health when drain-tanking dotted targets (havent tried it myself since i dont have beta)

And just to be sure of it, i checked it in-game myself, and Void-Lord does not have an aoe taunt. The only thing that alows voidlord to hold threat on multiple enemies would be his Void Shield ability, but that only lasts for 3 hits, so still dont se why a Voidlord would help you in multidotting.

If you mean that the Voidlord would act as another source of passive damage, i understand that, but why voidlord then? you would have some situations where you have to run back to loot a mob in that case since he will hold down 1 mob.

I will use Gosac simply because i will use drain soul all the time due to it regaining 4 soul shards if target dies while channeling, and i also get the +20% health and that beats out a pet handling 1 mob while multidotting imo. Btw, i get 35k Health from the "+20% health" so i think its really worth it, also mortal coil benefitts from that seing as its a % based heal, more max health = more health from mortal coil aswell, i just se it as a win-win by going Gosac.

[xskarma]

So...you gona engage with Void Lord and kill mob 1 at a time? cause...he doesnt have an aoe taunt anymore, so what good is he if you plan on multidotting for faster killing of quest-mobs? Sure, you got suffering, but that a 1-target taunt and wont hold the threat on 2 targets unless you micro-manage, which is a pain in the ass while lvling, and besides, if you get Soul-link you get 20% more health when sacrificing a demon, which means more health returned from the passive 2% health regen.

Soul Leech: "Your Malefic Grasp, Drain Soul and Haunt spell, heals you and your pet for 20% of the damage dealt." Where is the passive healing there? you would have to stay still to actually channel the spells to be healed, and if you multidott, you will end up taking more damage than you get returned unless you are talking about using Harvest Life, which might be able to regen at a 1:1 ratio for health when drain-tanking dotted targets (havent tried it myself since i dont have beta)

Hmm fair point. I suppose I can make due with a mouse over pet attack macro, that shouldn't be too stressful. Then just let VL attack first before dotting up, and I should be good. Suppose the next problem would be if you get slowed down by VL movement speed from mob to mob. Hmmm. Might just switch to Sacrifice/Soul Link for the first few levels after all.

[Fozuum]

I leveled as affliction on beta and it was soooo easy.
Soul burn soulswap mob #1
Soul burn soulswap mob #2
Soul burn soulswap mob #3
Drain soul mob #1
Repeat

Btw, used endless affliction glyph.

[Naeton]

Destro, strong single target, strong aoe.

[WaitingforMoP]

I always found Demo to be the best spec to level as

You really want burst damage not DoTs to level up, plus the Felguards bladestorm is good for pulling AoE trash mobs too

Maybe some things have changed (I'm unaware) and maybe a diff spec could be better now, don't know though

[Miothan]

I always found Demo to be the best spec to level as

You really want burst damage not DoTs to level up, plus the Felguards bladestorm is good for pulling AoE trash mobs too

Maybe some things have changed (I'm unaware) and maybe a diff spec could be better now, don't know though

The biggest change for Affliction that imo gives it an advantage in lvling, is that you put up Corruption, Agony and Unstable Affliction with 1 GCD, and you can do it to 4 mobs at a time, so you no longer spend a lot of "ramp-up" time as affliction.

[Grubjuice]

i like demonology because Metamorphosis and especially Dark Apotheosis have greater survivability. and while affliction's multi-dotting is efficient, Corruption alone is sufficient to pull multiple adds which can be killed with Hand of Gul'dan, Immolation Aura and Touch of Chaos.

I feel destruction is great for killing mobs one by one, or two by two, but can't really compete against Demo which can take 5 or 6 mobs at once.

[KachynaEU]

Balance when leveling alone, resto inside dungeons.

[archon951]

I've spent a good deal of time chain pulling mobs (farming) at the little event fight just after the red flight quests. The area at the gate between wetlands and twilight highlands. As long as I don't turn in the quest there; I'm phased into a zone that spawns lv 85 mobs as fast as I can kill them.

Over a period of about two weeks: I've found what I feel is the optimal combo for constant pulling / killing / least downtime.

-Harvest Life
Twice the healing, single target, as drain life and meh damage to add onto your dotted mobs. I'm pulling things practically every free global so soul leech never gets used for more then one or two ticks of drain soul (per 5 - 8 mobs) Experiments with Dark Regen were a mixed bag. The sudden burst of healing is really nice for if you mess up; but otherwise either goes unused or is not up when its needed.

-Mortal Coil
The short cooldown coupled with a nice chunk of health makes this an amazing talent for constant killing. I've had similar good results with shadow fury and harvest life; as the pressure is alleviated for 3 seconds (3 ticks at 5%, so more effective healing) However, because of the chain pulling nature of my example, shadow fury loses out because it can't always catch all of the incoming mobs or the mobs that are stunned die to fast to get the actual 15% healing.

-Dark Bargain
This is a very, very close tier. In earlier experiments where health was at a slow loss over time Dark Bargain was exactly enough to pull me back from over the edge several times. However: once the spec was refined to make imminent death situations not occur it lost its usefulness. I stick with it because I like having one emergency card up my sleeve. Soul Link is a very close second, but generally just as unnecessary.

-Burning Rush
As far as farming / leveling goes this tier offers just about nothing. Burning rush wins by default simply because it lets me (in short bursts) get to additional packs faster. I would recommend adding a cancel aura macro into your main offensive spells just so you don't accidentally forget to turn this off.

-Grimoire of Supremacy
The void-lord is my 'pet of choice' while killing large amounts of mobs. Any damage he takes is damage I am not taking; because of the nature of spamming SB:SS, I do not generally have time to channel MG on a target before they are about to die. Therefore; GoSac offers little benefit outside of the 2%HP. However; that additional percent based health regeneration when combined with soul link is also perfectly viable; and once you get your rhythm it allows the lv 45 tier to still offer some kind of benefit.

My final leveling build is probably going to be:
Harvest Life - (Coil / Shadow Fury, depending on incoming mobs. Stunned for harvest vs spread out ranged types.) - Soul Link - Burning Rush - GoSac

[checking facts]

I feel confortable with dark apothosis questing, and I'll be doing so through my levelling experience

[Miothan]

Balance when leveling alone, resto inside dungeons.

A druid! roast it! (if Boomkin, otherwise frying is a viable cooking method i believe, yum yum)

[Hellfury]

So...you gona engage with Void Lord and kill mob 1 at a time? cause...he doesnt have an aoe taunt anymore, so what good is he if you plan on multidotting for faster killing of quest-mobs? Sure, you got suffering, but that a 1-target taunt and wont hold the threat on 2 targets unless you micro-manage, which is a pain in the ass while lvling, and besides, if you get Soul-link you get 20% more health when sacrificing a demon, which means more health returned from the passive 2% health regen.

Soul Leech: "Your Malefic Grasp, Drain Soul and Haunt spell, heals you and your pet for 20% of the damage dealt." Where is the passive healing there? you would have to stay still to actually channel the spells to be healed, and if you multidott, you will end up taking more damage than you get returned unless you are talking about using Harvest Life, which might be able to regen at a 1:1 ratio for health when drain-tanking dotted targets (havent tried it myself since i dont have beta)

And just to be sure of it, i checked it in-game myself, and Void-Lord does not have an aoe taunt. The only thing that alows voidlord to hold threat on multiple enemies would be his Void Shield ability, but that only lasts for 3 hits, so still dont se why a Voidlord would help you in multidotting.

If you mean that the Voidlord would act as another source of passive damage, i understand that, but why voidlord then? you would have some situations where you have to run back to loot a mob in that case since he will hold down 1 mob.

I will use Gosac simply because i will use drain soul all the time due to it regaining 4 soul shards if target dies while channeling, and i also get the +20% health and that beats out a pet handling 1 mob while multidotting imo. Btw, i get 35k Health from the "+20% health" so i think its really worth it, also mortal coil benefitts from that seing as its a % based heal, more max health = more health from mortal coil aswell, i just se it as a win-win by going Gosac.

He doesnt need a AOE taunt becuase the new AI makes him automaticaly get aggro from each target until he has aggro on them all, works wonders tbh.

that being said I think sacrifice will be the best until 87-88 depends on gear, but after 8 mobs start to hit for quite a bit

[Miothan]

He doesnt need a AOE taunt becuase the new AI makes him automaticaly get aggro from each target until he has aggro on them all, works wonders tbh.

that being said I think sacrifice will be the best until 87-88 depends on gear, but after 8 mobs start to hit for quite a bit

Ok, that does indeed seem like a good AI improvement, tho, wouldent it take time for the voidlord to aggro all 5-6 targets if you use SB:SS to multidot?

[Zharradan]

just tested and if i put corruption on a mob, and someone hits him before corruption ticks i can't loot him....

[Jainzar]

affliction by far the best spec for leveling.