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    I also want to point out that the way it's stated in the op, the "actions are done in the order the mod receives em" thing is under night phase. I took it to mean exactly how I'm describing it, not "post to kill Worgen 2 fucking hours before night even has a chance to start and have it go through!" That's day phase then and should've been either stated there or the description should've included something along the lines of "this means if I receive an action 2 hours before night starts, I'll accept it as two hours before anyone else posted"

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    Dyra closed the previous game thread just when I was making my post .__.


    Anyways, I was trying to tell Kisuro that Traitors did lose in this game if they died before getting converted, we just played with the old rule set where Traitors could still win with the town should they remain alive at the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkku View Post
    Dyra closed the previous game thread just when I was making my post .__.
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    Another case of trust in Elyaan.

    If you do, the town will win.

    Two games have paid testament to this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyaan View Post
    Another case of trust in Elyaan.

    If you do, the town will win.

    Two games have paid testament to this!
    Yeah dismembering you has been truly beneficial for the Town. <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkku View Post
    Anyways, I was trying to tell Kisuro that Traitors did lose in this game if they died before getting converted, we just played with the old rule set where Traitors could still win with the town should they remain alive at the end
    Ok, yeah, I re-read the traitor thread and I'm all caught up now. I just thought that Majad trying not to get converted was going against his goal. I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyaan View Post
    Another case of trust in Elyaan.

    If you do, the town will win.

    Two games have paid testament to this!
    I still hate you for doing that!
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisuro View Post
    Ok, yeah, I re-read the traitor thread and I'm all caught up now. I just thought that Majad trying not to get converted was going against his goal. I stand corrected.
    That's not how I interpreted what Keleb and Kray said.

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    I agree with Worgen to a point. I actually liked the change to priority, but I'd like to see a modified version if we ever decide to go at it again. Imo protections should always come before kills, but no specific order to protections (still keep the first come first serve attitude). Potentially in that instance, say the doctor protects person A, and 30 minutes later the jk locks up the doctor. In that instance both person a and the doc get a protection. If it was flipped, only the doc would get the protection. When it comes to kills, they should happen after the protections, regardless of input time, but be ordered against other kills depending on time.

    I do like Worgens idea of if an action is stated prior to night, it's counted as having been done at the time night began. That's actually how I thought it occurred. I was super busy at work yesterday and didn't know when is be able to return to my phone and get my action in. I feared if I posted too late that the mafia would hit me prior to testing his claim.

    Lastly, there is an imbalance with protections not having prio over kills when a SK is present (especially the strongman, as worgen suggested). In the closed setup it does add to the confusion but also gives the strongman "power" to a quick or lucky poster.

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    I went back and forth in my kills almost nightly. Maybe I shouldn't have used the edit just to show what exactly I was thinking, but j was tryin to keep it clean and concise for Krayzy and Keleb. I tried RPing as much as I could in my journal and came close to messaging you, but went to Majad instead. On the night of anakso's unfortunate demise, I think I had 3 different kill targets arranged. I'm actually surprised I still got my kill in prior to the mafia. I for sure thought I was late on that and that the mafia randomly wanted to kill one of their own to impart confusion on the SK or vigi. I didn't even fathom a bomb. Whn I finally did think of the bomb, I thought of our old bomb and not the new first target activates and second target blows up. I figured listo protected me night 2.

    Vigilante was a ton of fun to play. Definitely a different style when you're killing for the town, but don't know what you're going after. As scum you know everyone you kill brings you closer to victory. As vigilante, you fear that each kill will be a detriment to your team. So exhausting.

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    Awesome idea with the journal. Such a blast and also much easier to keep thought processes going in a thread without looking like you're just talking to yourself. And yes, I was stressed both times I was mafia as well. It's difficult trying to keep that townie game going as mafia with the fear of not posting enough or posting way too damn much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolo4804 View Post
    @robo
    Awesome idea with the journal. Such a blast and also much easier to keep thought processes going in a thread without looking like you're just talking to yourself. And yes, I was stressed both times I was mafia as well. It's difficult trying to keep that townie game going as mafia with the fear of not posting enough or posting way too damn much.
    That's what it's for, to have fun while writing it and to help keep one's thoughts in order, especially if you're by yourself. Your diary was immensely entertaining. Mine was a little harder to do this time because I had allies, but it still served it's purpose.

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    I told rolo to kill you because it would cover all potential outcomes of loss for me. I couldn't be ACTUALLY sure of any role but mine. Telling rolo to kill you accomplishes 2 things:
    1) check if you're actually a doctor
    2) give rolo a better target than me if he's an SK and not a vigilante

    I considered that you would be a doctor and die anyway to priorities, but I played with an estimation of team sizes the entire time. I wouldn't have risked so much if I thought we were a day from losing. I figured if you were a doctor and got NKed by the vigilante, we still had a day to find the other mafia. With kel telling the truth and not being counter claimed, there were 2 unknowns at that point and I could investigate one and would know both of their roles, which is what happened. I think you would get friends killed to guarantee a win, too =p

    What surprises me is that the mafia didn't go for me two nights in a row.

    This game was stacked in the town's favor, it appears keleb expected people to be AFK for the holidays and for us to actually hit the time deadline with long days/nights. For once, MMOC mafia was MORE active than expected? =p

    Of course, the unknown set up and strange role additions (heavy town + santa claus) combined with two NKs in a 16 person game leading to 4 dead town from the start is what pushed me into playing so aggressively. Had I known it was just a big mafia team and a vigilante I probably wouldn't have role claimed like that and the game might not have been quite as one sided. I took several huge risks this game that would probably have resulted in a night kill and a lost game in 9/10 other games. Up until the last day or two I was concerned the game was severely stacked against the town, actually.

    If anyone wants a summary of the PM correspondence as it happened I can try to give that, since many people seem confused in the dead thread as to how this game was actually played by me/rolo/worgen/majad/silkku
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    I really did like this way night worked for this game. But I do think for some TPRs there should only be 1 unless we get a large game. I mean with 2 docs, the second one of us role claimed the other would counter and one of us would die to prove we are who we are (what happened to me). I think if it was kept to one it would have been better.
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    It's too bad I died on Night 1. Santa seemed like a pretty fun role, but I guess I deserved it for all my soft claiming. Rolo, your thread was pretty fun to read, nice roleplaying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dwarf Lover View Post
    It's too bad I died on Night 1. Santa seemed like a pretty fun role, but I guess I deserved it for all my soft claiming. Rolo, your thread was pretty fun to read, nice roleplaying.
    Yeah, I didn't think you were Santa Claus, I didn't think anybody would soft claim like that on day one. I killed you just as much because I figured you wouldn't get bomb two games in a row. I realize that is faulty reasoning though, as you were just as likely as Anakso (or anybody else) to get bomb this game. RNG does not care what role a player had the last round.

    ---------- Post added 2012-12-26 at 11:29 AM ----------

    I forgot to say something to Rolo.

    Damn you Rolo! I was going to use the last game as a dream angle next time I had a solo power role! >.<

    ---------- Post added 2012-12-26 at 11:40 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    If anyone wants a summary of the PM correspondence as it happened I can try to give that, since many people seem confused in the dead thread as to how this game was actually played by me/rolo/worgen/majad/silkku
    I know I'm fine, now that I've read that Silkku told our vigilante that Majad was a traitor (presumably after you told Silkku) the only major question I had was answered.

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    Third game in a row as scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightFury Treann View Post
    Yay lynched again by Lysah when i'm asleep.
    You were mafia, so???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    You were mafia, so???
    Where's your proof of it?! and don't come with the "I'm Lysah" or "i don't púst" and all that stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightFury Treann View Post
    Where's your proof of it?! and don't come with the "I'm Lysah" or "i don't púst" and all that stuff!
    She gave her reasoning in her post. I think the gist of it was, it was me or you and since she investigated me and I came back as Town. Therefore you had to go. <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robozerim View Post
    I forgot to say something to Rolo.

    Damn you Rolo! I was going to use the last game as a dream angle next time I had a solo power role! >.<
    I wasn't quite sure what angle I wanted to take and then my gf suggested making it all a dream. "How else can the same people play over and over in the same town with different roles each time? It's always just a dream!" Yes I talk to my gf about these games. I've been trying to get her to join as she's showed interest, but hasn't actually followed any games yet. I realized towards the end of the game I lost the RP flavor for more strategy. Truth be told I was super busy at work yesterday (yes on Christmas). The weather doesn't wait for a non holiday to screw with outside systems and equipment. I was thinking strategy all day and would jot down what I could, but couldn't actually spend the time actually developing a story for my character.

    I know it doesn't show I ha a different target on night 2 in my thread, but I had Treann down originally. I was telling myself I was going to kill Lysah, Treann, Anakso or Silkku, and I think I had even mentioned those suspicions to Majad. I know he mentioned a few to me, but I can't remember which off hand. But anyways I had finally made up my mind on Anakso, but typed out Treann. Went and posted my next journal entry and realized I wrote the wrong name down. I could only imagine what would have happened if I never caught my initial mistake. Kisuro wouldn't have died, same with Anakso. Night 2 would have a missing kill. Worgen might have believed he prevented a kill on himself, and listo may have reached out to whomever he protected night 2. Initial outcome would still have been the same for mafia, they'd be down 2 people, but they'd most likely hit Anakso the plowing night and died. I know if that mistake would have gone through I probably would have targeted Anakso or night 3, depending on how day 3 panned out. Would have been a completely different game.
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