I'm guessing it has been posted elsewhere, but what trinket are we looking at for second bis then? I'm presuming rune will still be no.1?
how about LFR RoR? as it never seems to drop on normal mode for our guild
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Using my full T16 normal test set (no upgrades), the only trinket that beats a 2/2 Upgraded LFR RoR is a 549 Renataki's / 549 Juju. That's not including any of the options from the new tier except for AoC, because prior to them buffing them a couple days ago they were awful.
My raid is smashing our heads on DA-10H. My MS is bear, but they want me as cat on this fight. I have several shared pieces (cloak, boots, weapon, gloves) that I would rather not have to regem agility for every week. Am I missing out on much by not doing this?
Armory (feral gear, guardian spec): http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Wojtek/simple
Unfortunately the guy who does our logs hasn't posted them yet or I'd link them.
I'm using leafkiller. I usually open with prepotting and getting 2 mangles on my add and using that for SR and then swapping to Animus. From here I burn my energy and pop TF/Berserk/Incarnation. We aren't getting very far but my damage is on the low end.
Don't use Incarnation or NV for feral. If anything, you should be using SotF and HotW. I'm not 100% sure of the 10m strat, but you should be fine with having 1 set of bleeds on your add, really just depends when your add is supposed to die. If you have a warlock in your group, bleed up your add build 5cp then Soul Swap them to DA and then pop your 5cp SR.
Swapping to agi gems will get you more damage, but I wouldn't put it as game-breaking.
Damn I didn't even think of the soul swap, excellent idea.
I thought NV and Incarnation would be better since we are using the zerg strat. I'll swap and see how it is.
Unless the fight is <1 min, SotF + HotW will be better....better yet if you are comfortable with DoC.
I'm not, and I don't plan to be since things are changing so much in 5.4. Then I will re-evaluate.
You're probably better of staying with full crit gems if you don't want to have to regem every week, it's actually DPS neutral with Rune if your gear is good enough.
Also, your reforging isn't the best and you could probably get a little more out of it reforging with Catus.
It's not the best because I don't want to change my shared bear pieces. The pieces I share are neck, cloak, bracers, gloves, H-TF ring, boots, weapon, and Juju (14 heroic kills, 14 coin rolls, 1 Rentaki's that I gave to our hunter).
I'm well aware I could reforge better if I were going strictly cat.
I did my best to try and learn DoC. No matter what I do, I'm simply getting far better results from NV. 90k on the dummy vs. 110k at ilvl 529. I've resigned myself to the fact that the skill cap is simply too high for me to do DoC properly. My main is a bear, after all. I'm not used to complicated rotations, combo points and ridiculous positional requirements. And I don't have RoRo either..
I got a question, managed to pick up myself a RoR from HC lei shen, used catus to reforge/gem/enchant my gear and get the most out of the proc. It's currently proccing around 230% mastery. The problem is that it just seems way to random. I can keep RoR DoC'd bleeds up, but when the trinket is not proccing you loose an insane amount of dps. You could argue that you also loose dps when your other trinkets don't proc, but I have lost almost half of my overall bleed damage (when I just stacked full mastery) was at 115%, down to 63% (unbuffed).
I'm guessing RoR gets better when your overall mastery is higher? I'm seeing ferals using RoR with 75% mastery.
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It's just a numbers thing. Will your DPS be more stable if you don't reforge 1:1:1? Yes, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Edit: A more objective analysis, using stats from my own character:
Mastery > Haste > Crit:
11040 Mastery (98.28% bleed damage)
7935 Haste (18.67% haste)
4582 Crit (42.65% crit chance)
25034 mastery RoR proc (total bleed damage 228.87%)
7861 Mastery (81.70% bleed damage)
7857 Haste (18.49% haste)
7858 Crit (48.11% crit chance)
31430 mastery RoR proc (total bleed damage 245.66%)
Bleed damage during RoR: +7.37%
Bleed damage outside of RoR: -4.86%
% of bleed ticks that must be affected by RoR for bleed damage to break even: 39.74%
-0.18% haste (0.15% less haste)
+5.46% crit (3.82% more crits)
Non-bleed damage outside RoR (assuming 1% more haste is 1% more damage): +3.66%
I'm finally back from my vecation, i've been reading the last few pages casually thought (bad me)
I want to share a facepalm moment when i got back i ran lfr with wrong gear so i had crit proc on rune xD
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I thought we would open the topic about loot.
First off we show the tier pices...
Head Headguard of the Shattered Vale
Shoulders Spaulders of the Shattered Vale
Chest Raiment of the Shattered Vale
Hands Grips of the Shattered Vale
Legs Legguards of the Shattered Vale
Then we got off pices
Kor'Kron Elite Skullmask
Hood of Blackened Tears
Stickley's Grey-Shade Hood (This was just in the database as Warforged)
Shoulderguards of the Rightous Stand
Spaulders of Dominating Dreams*(This was just in the database as Warforged)
Robes of the Blackened Watcher
Lazahk's lost Shadowrap
Fire-Keeper Flamewrap (This was just in the database as Warforged)
Siid's Silent Stranglers
Korgra's Venom-Soaked Gauntlets
Gloves of the Golden Protector
Snow Lily Britches
Riou's Vigilant Leggings
Arielle's Ancient Legwraps (This was just in the database as Warforged)
Immerseus' Crystalline Eye
Gleming Eye of the Devilsaur
Fen-Yo, Furry of Xuen
Mantid Carapace Augments
Laser Burn Bracers
Bomber's Balckened Wristwatch
Bracers of Shimmering Fury*(This was just in the database as Warforged)
Trinket 1 Rune of Re-Origination
Trinket 2 Assurance of Consequence
Aggixx will soon give us a complete simcraft list of trinkets in order i'd imagine
Swift Serpent Signet
Ring of Restless Energy
Reality Ripper Ring
Kil'ruk's Band of Ascendancy
Stonetoe's Tormented Treads
Snow Lily Belt
Damron's Belt of Darkness
Cord of Black Dreams
Belt of Glowing Embers
Trident of Corrupted Waters
Kor'Kron Spire of Supermacy
Halberd of Inner Shadows
Last edited by Etapicx; 2013-08-05 at 11:58 AM.
Always choose a lazy person to the a difficult job!
He will find an easy way to do it.