WOTLK had the highest subs do a google search and find out. the sequence was wrong, I did shattered halls and shadow labs in blues FYI. Kara gear would not hurt but you out geared it by then which defeats the sequence. You are flatly wrong on it. ZA we had blue geared alts going into it and clearing it. You really could get into it (but doing the timed run was another matter) You really need to learn that because you may have not been able to do it doesnt mean it wasnt easily doable.