I think the race wont matter, because of how the tiers are layed out for staggered release. If this is a race, its a turtles pace.
not really it will just be that much more impressive if a guild gets heroic vault before heart comes out along with a few other guilds. then heart opens and they get heroic heart and terrace too. That will solidify that guild as #1 that they basically won 2 races in 1. But to be honest who clears Terrace is all that matters cause its gonna be the hardest one. Vault is just a 3 week temp raid to gear up from the look of it.
Paragon got banned on first week of raiding, aka normals ... they've started heroics, after the ban has expired.
In our topic, I believe that a non-EU guild will take the 25man firsts, which one? dunno hoping for vodka.
They amazed me on Ultra hc when it was progress, when all guilds tried to heal through the last minute, they tried to avoid it, they 3-healed it with the shamans dpsing :P... that's a mentality with all letters in capital...
Last edited by ant13; 2012-09-21 at 06:10 AM.
http://www.wowprogress.com/rating.tier13_25 - is what you are looking for. It excludes all the 6/8 heroic clears all the downscaled 25man guilds did during the first week of heroic modes when all the raiders were banned.
Also my guess would be Paragon for 10man and Method for 25man. Paragon has been the superior guild for so long. Them going 10man just means that they are able to bypass some gear checks and kill everything even earlier than if they had gone 25man with their usual roster.
Method was by far the strongest 25man guild during tier 11 and 12, back when other strong guilds such as Ensidia and For the Horde still competed and the raiding tiers were much more demanding, so I can't really imagine any other guild taking the number 1 spot.
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http://www.wowprogress.com/guild/eu/...ting.tier13_25
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Last edited by mmoca20fa69a21; 2012-09-21 at 08:46 AM.
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No guild stays at the top forever. Some of their well known players like Lazeil and Xenophics aren't even playing anymore from what I know. They probably knew they had no chance at taking the #1 spot in 25 man, not with many new players filling up their roster. Why do you think they went 10 man in the first place?
Yes, they are VERY skilled and clearly were the best in the past but that doesn't automatically mean it's the same now.
Anyway, my money is on Method for 25m. Paragon will probably still take #1 10m and overall.
Last edited by Ashrr; 2012-09-21 at 10:43 AM.
Paragon...