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  • A) Solve someone else's problems

    77 25.50%
  • A) Cause a problem and be forced to fix it

    155 51.32%
  • B) Learn about where demons come from

    167 55.30%
  • B) Learn about demonic limitations

    109 36.09%
  • C) Learn more about where your powers come from

    195 64.57%
  • C) Learn more about the history of warlocks

    99 32.78%
  • D) Solve puzzles

    143 47.35%
  • D) Defeat monsters

    110 36.42%
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  1. #101
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    As long as run backs are short I don't mind wiping and having some trial and error, otherwise it you never get any feeling of accomplishment.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by zinnin View Post
    As long as run backs are short I don't mind wiping and having some trial and error, otherwise it you never get any feeling of accomplishment.
    True. I suppose I'm still thinking of the Dragonwrath quest, which had a very steep and annoying reset penalty for failure. I did the first stage of the Fangs questline on my Rogue alt, and that had a much more forgiving failure penalty. Having to do a certain amount of learning through failure is a lot more tolerable if failure doesn't come with such a high cost.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirroth View Post
    I would, however, like to speak against puzzle challenges of the old Sierra model. Encounter challenge, die horribly, res, try a solution, die, res, find the correct solution, get to the next stage of the puzzle, die horribly, repeat. Please, no. It'd be like progression raiding from scratch, only without friends along to make it tolerable.

    Anything that requires preparation before hand, like a specific pet or talent, needs to be telegraphed ahead of time. And I hesitate to endorse requiring a specific talent or glyph. Even with the lowered bar for alternations it's too close to requiring a specific spec to progress. Use of baseline abilities doesn't always have to be telegraphed ahead of time, but if not you have to give the player breathing room during the fight to go hunting in their spellbook because they don't have Twilight Ward or Curse of Enfeeblement on their action bars.
    Although I agree to a certain degree, I'd hate it if everything was slammed so explicitly at me. I'd personally like to die the first time, then think for a while and tell myself: Ok so I failed this time, what are my options, and how can I do this?
    The example with the infernal that I gave is a good case in my opinion, since you'd have a growing debuff that increases the further the infernal approaches. Maybe to a certain degree the debuff coul be marked with something like "an infernal sentry has spotted you and seeks your death/soul". Doesn't seem like such a bad hint, a bit subtle, yet not too obvious.
    Although I'd like it to be very subtle I can imagine some people raging, but oh well, if I've learned anything it's that I mostly can't have things go my way.

    Also, if you give players too much time to react it becomes a bit obsolete. Plus, with all the trimming done to our spellbook, I don't see how any warlock couldn't fit all of his spells into his action bars.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nivrax View Post
    You may be on to something here... GC claimed Ret Paladins killed his parents. Could it be that Warlocks drained Celas' dog soul?

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Xelnath View Post
    What was his name?
    She. A young woman with white hair, isn't given a name

    Actually part of the problem, they don't exist in game anywhere to ever get names...

    Quote Originally Posted by zinnin View Post
    As long as run backs are short I don't mind wiping and having some trial and error, otherwise it you never get any feeling of accomplishment.
    Par for the course I figured...

  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinnin View Post
    As long as run backs are short I don't mind wiping and having some trial and error, otherwise it you never get any feeling of accomplishment.
    I remember after emissary romankhan in Silithus was nerfed (in wrath i think) he was soloable at level 60, but it was not easy.

    I did not know who he was at the time because i was a new player back then, and had missed the Vanilla Raids, but i had a great time running the rather long quest chain to summon him and then solo'd him on my warlock. Took maybe three tries, but it was really rewarding once i finally got him dead.

  6. #106
    Okay. I think I've come up with something that has never been done in wow before that you guys will like.

    Don't assume too heavily - it's still very much wow and you'll still be doing some wow things, but I used the input here to bias where i spent my time.

    The future looks bright... green.

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Xelnath View Post
    Okay. I think I've come up with something that has never been done in wow before that you guys will like.

    Don't assume too heavily - it's still very much wow and you'll still be doing some wow things, but I used the input here to bias where i spent my time.

    The future looks bright... green.
    ...marry me

  8. #108
    Actually, I'm going to say one more thing to get your mind juices flowing.

    I'm hoping I actually built a type of puzzle that is *more fun* when more people are collaborating on solving it.

  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Xelnath View Post
    Actually, I'm going to say one more thing to get your mind juices flowing.

    I'm hoping I actually built a type of puzzle that is *more fun* when more people are collaborating on solving it.

  10. #110
    You know if you ever happen to be short of NPC names, I'd willingly do a donation. This game needs more Blood Elves!
    Also, the idea of increasing the fun depending on the amount of people seems nice, it might be a bit tough on barren servers, especially if you need warlocks only. I'm looking forward to it but I wasn't expecting something of the sort
    Quote Originally Posted by Nivrax View Post
    You may be on to something here... GC claimed Ret Paladins killed his parents. Could it be that Warlocks drained Celas' dog soul?

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenexis View Post
    You know if you ever happen to be short of NPC names, I'd willingly do a donation. This game needs more Blood Elves!
    Also, the idea of increasing the fun depending on the amount of people seems nice, it might be a bit tough on barren servers, especially if you need warlocks only. I'm looking forward to it but I wasn't expecting something of the sort
    I second this, with such a large number of blood elf warlock players, it's quite weird how few there are in the game as NPCs.

    I mainly see orcs and forsaken.

    Blood elves are all (to some level) warlocks, in that they have(had) dealings with the devil.

    And trolls! All I see are witch doctors, where are the troll warlocks?
    Magnificence personified

  12. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by qu1rex View Post

    And trolls! All I see are witch doctors, where are the troll warlocks?

    in the hinterlands, mostly.

  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Xelnath View Post
    Okay. I think I've come up with something that has never been done in wow before that you guys will like.

    Don't assume too heavily - it's still very much wow and you'll still be doing some wow things, but I used the input here to bias where i spent my time.

    The future looks bright... Mauve.
    Fixed?

    Maybe?

    :3

  14. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Fixed?

    Maybe?

    :3
    Nope. Mauve fire got shot down back in the 60s.

  15. #115
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    Quick question, will I be able to keep my orange fire?

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Xelnath View Post
    Nope. Mauve fire got shot down back in the 60s.
    Boo! Oh well, all sounds awesome and really looking forward to seeing the end results.

  17. #117
    Sounds very promising, waiting patiently.



    O.k. *not* patiently. GIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMME
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  18. #118
    Unrelated.

    Shaidar was the first US Warlock to 90?

    http://www.wowprogress.com/char_level/us/class.warlock

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Xelnath View Post
    Unrelated.

    Shaidar was the first US Warlock to 90?

    http://www.wowprogress.com/char_level/us/class.warlock
    Looks like it. http://www.mmo-champion.com/members/608182-CDShaidar Check his signature. Same name, same guild.
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  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Xelnath View Post
    Nope. Mauve fire got shot down back in the 60s.
    Really I'll be happy if I could just get my Chaos Bolt to match the rest of my spells :-P

    A little disappointed that so many warlock like puzzles more than blowing stuff up, but I'm sure it'll be awesome. This kind of thing makes me feel good about giving Blizzard so much money. Well, better at least

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