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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadylol View Post
    Baseline combat in WoW simply requires more skill than in GW2. GW2 has too easy of a setup, with very few abilities, and of those few, there's only a couple actually worth using, and there's too many easy "outs", like the dodge roll that just turns you invulnerable
    Meh. I didnt played affliction locks since loooong time. Shadow Priests? IDK. I heard their rotations got hairy in Cata. Did they? In the past few years I played a hunter, a rogue and some healing with priest. None of them had any sort of rotation that required some sort of great skill. Jebus, last thing I played was MM hunter (I stopped playing WoW in December). Watch your focus bar. Two active skills used on intervals (Chimera and Arcane/Aimed depending from your gearing style). Spam Steady Shot otherwise and once every 3 minutes press some DPS cooldown. Dont stand in fire. When DBM yells at you like a freight train, do something important like move away or click something. SOMETIMES you have some certain role like drop a trap or snare something but that is encounter specific.

    In GW2 I need to dodge much more often. Aggro is bouncy and I often find to be chased by something that can 2-shot me. Auto-attack. Two skills used on intervals to increase damage (but only when I feel like I can go closer to melee range). Then there are three kits which I rotate frequently. At least try to swap to bomb kit every 20sec and drop the long cooldown bombs at feet of mobs, as long as it is safe to be in melee for a moment. That is swap to kit, use 3-skills, change. Then swap to granade kit and do same smoke granede, poison granede and frozing granede. Also use three toolbet skills (f2-f3-f4) on cooldown. Using healing skill pretty much on cooldown due to all the damage flying around. When I get hit harder, swap to med-kit. Then 1-2-3 on the run to eat some HP packs, leaded with 4 if I have some conditions on me, end with 5 for a buff and swap to another kit or back to weapon. All this while always watching the ground for often several red circles and running away from mobs chasing me, often more than one. And then look for downed people and try to ress them. I am sorry but for me that is much more frantic from what I usually did in WoW. And I for sure did more than LFR.

    I am not saying that GW2 requires some awesome skills. It does not. Starcraft 2 or Street Fighter do. But saying that LFR > GW2 dungeons? Please.
    Last edited by Awe; 2012-09-20 at 09:29 AM.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadylol View Post
    No, stance dancing is the opposite of what I want. If the UI had some basic functionality added, such as a way to have all of your stances (and for other classes, weapons) abilities laid out at once, and I could keybind them individually, rather than keybinding a slot that I can't move the skill on, then I wouldn't mind stance dancing by just hitting those keys, but going through the arbitrary constraint of "LOL FIRE MODE", then "LOL WATER MODE" is even worse than hitting 2 keys to max DPS.
    You really have no idea what you're talking about do you? I have trouble believing you even tried the game.
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylreick View Post
    I don't entirely feel that way. I quite enjoy the way guild wars 2 is in most aspects, but I still find WoW great in combat terms with a faster paced movement (and camera). I'm still enjoying WoW, but the feeling is not as strong as it was before.

    But hey, got WoW in one hand, even though it still has a sub, and I got GW2 for any and all downtime I might have (or just times when I feel like playing it instead). Good deal, imo.
    Actually, the default camera movement is the set to the slowest, you have to set it yourself

  4. #84
    I can still enjoy WoW but only for shorter periods, when you've played it for over 6years you have done it so many times it's simply not fun anymore (most content, not all) the last time I played was when someone sent me a ressurection scroll and I ended up sitting in SW chatting for a week, or pretty much anyhow.
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  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Awe View Post
    Meh. I didnt played affliction locks since loooong time. Shadow Priests? IDK. I heard their rotations got hairy in Cata. Did they? In the past few years I played a hunter, a rogue and some healing with priest. None of them had any sort of rotation that required some sort of great skill. Jebus, last thing I played was MM hunter (I stopped playing WoW in December). Watch your focus bar. Two active skills used on intervals (Chimera and Arcane/Aimed depending from your gearing style). Spam Steady Shot otherwise and once every 3 minutes press some DPS cooldown. Dont stand in fire. When DBM yells at your like a freight train, do something important like move away or click something. SOMETIMES you have some certain role like drop a trap or snare something but that is encounter specific.

    In GW2 I need to dodge much more often. Aggro is bouncy and I often find to be chased by something that can 2-shot me. Auto-attack. Two skills used on intervals to increase damage (but only when I feel like I can go closer to melee range). Then there are three kits which I rotate frequently. At least try to swap to bomb kit every 20sec and drop the long cooldown bombs at feet of mobs, as long as it is safe to be in melee for a moment. That is swap to kit, use 3-skills, change. Then swap to granade kit and do same smoke granede, poison granede and frozing granede. Also use three toolbet skills (f2-f3-f4) on cooldown. Using healing skill pretty much on cooldown due to all the damage flying around. When I get hit harder, swap to med-kit. Then 1-2-3 on the run to eat some HP packs, leaded with 4 if I have some conditions on me, end with 5 for a buff and swap to another kit or back to weapon. All this while always watching the ground for often several red circles and running away from mobs chasing me, often more than one. And then look for downed people and try to ress them. I am sorry but for me that is much more frantic from what I usually did in WoW. And I for sure did more than LFR.

    I am not saying that GW2 requires some awesome skills. It does not. Starcraft 2 or Street Fighter do. But saying that LFR > GW2 dungeons? Please.
    Why are you comparing one of the simplest WoW specs to one of the more complex GW2 classes?

    In GW2, with my Warrior I just hit 4, then E (which proceeds to automatically press itself from here on out), and hit Q on cooldown for Greatsword. Hit Q once, then E once with main hand sword. Hit E once, 3 on cooldown, and 2 with full rage if I had to back out to range and use my Rifle for a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaddriel View Post
    You really have no idea what you're talking about do you? I have trouble believing you even tried the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiggler View Post
    I bought GW2 and it basically showed me, what I have in WoW. To me, combat in GW2 seemed very clunky, just like character animations.
    I feel sorry for basically wasting 60€ but well, a mistake I learned from.
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  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadylol View Post
    Why are you comparing one of the simplest WoW specs to one of the more complex GW2 classes?

    In GW2, with my Warrior I just hit 4, then E (which proceeds to automatically press itself from here on out), and hit Q on cooldown for Greatsword. Hit Q once, then E once with main hand sword. Hit E once, 3 on cooldown, and 2 with full rage if I had to back out to range and use my Rifle for a bit

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    What's your Skype name? I'll call you and share my screen, so you can see, if you really doubt me
    I am comparing what I played. Engineer is my 1st class in GW2 and my chosen main. My hunter was my main in WoW. I also raided a bit with rogue in DS and it was even simpler (lolcombatspec). I compare my own experiences. Maybe its biased. But so can be yours.

    Btw. I didnt reaserched it yet but maybe as warrior swapping weapons in combat would bring you some benefits? That would work similar to kit swapping.

    PS. Hunters were not easiest spec to play in Cata. Arcane mages anyone?
    Last edited by Awe; 2012-09-20 at 09:40 AM.

  8. #88
    if i were to choose to not play gw2 and had to pick another game, i would go to ffxiv instead of going back to wow

  9. #89
    wait till the fluff of the new wears off and you will notice that wow is a superior game all around. i am not saying that gw2 is bad, but a lot of things aren't as great as anet or some fanboys make them out to be.

    DEs are one of those things.

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Awe View Post
    I am comparing what I played. Engineer is my 1st class in GW2 and my chosen main. My hunter was my main in WoW. I also raided a bit with rogue in DS and it was even simpler (lolcombatspec). I compare my own experiences. Maybe its biased. But so can be yours.

    Btw. I didnt reaserched it yet but maybe as warrior swapping weapons in combat would bring you some benefits? That would work similar to kit swapping.
    It depends on your build, if weapon swapping will actually be beneficial, and it's usually not worth it to make a build around swapping 2 melee weapons, since you need a ranged weapon for a lot of stuff, and most of your swapping is just swapping from melee to rifle. But even double melee builds only involve swapping between two sets of 5 abilities, and of those 5 each, most weapons only have a couple that are worth using
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  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Kawwah View Post
    I was also enjoying GW2, but it quickly became to much of a grind for my taste. Sure the events are cool, but many of the heart quests are very boring. Good thing about it all is that its free to play, so im gonna play wow for old friends and raiding reasons, and GW2 for social and relaxation reasons. Never understood why people needed to take a stand with either wow or GW2 when one of the games is F2P. Play both.
    I found the same thing, Ill dip in and out of GW2 when wow servers are down but wont be getting in the way of MoP for me.

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Ohai View Post
    wait till the fluff of the new wears off and you will notice that wow is a superior game all around. i am not saying that gw2 is bad, but a lot of things aren't as great as anet or some fanboys make them out to be.

    DEs are one of those things.
    DEs are actually the one thing that merits praise. World Bosses just being out and about is really cool, and even doing the events that spawn them is fun. The problem is that this "content" isn't competitive at all, by any definition, and bumrushing random bosses and stuff out in the world with 40 people doesn't stay fun forever
    Rest In Peace, World of Warcraft. Subscriber count doesn't matter, WoW has been dead in spirit for a while
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  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Thermor View Post
    Unfortunately, I bought Guild Wars 2 and can now never imagine myself enjoying WoW again. Anyone else feeling this way?

    For me, Guild Wars takes a huge step forward with its gameplay and quest design. Its just far more enjoyable than WoW is atm. Its a similar feeling as when I first bought WoW. Its been 6 years of the same thing over and over again, its nice to have a big change. I highly recommend Guild Wars to anyone who is burned out on WoW in general. In fact, I recommend this game to just about anyone. €50 and no subscription fee is great value.
    I am willing to bet you Gw2 dies a slow death just like swtor and all the others .......

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongo4200 View Post
    I am willing to bet you Gw2 dies a slow death just like swtor and all the others .......
    Not exactly

    Guild Wars 2 doesn't need subscribers to stay financially viable. It does need people to buy the box, and relies on additional sales of microtransactions and paid expansions, but it won't need so much of these to generate sustainable revenue

    There's already a lot less people playing than there were in the first couple weeks, though, and GW2 won't be some kind of massive success that kills WoW or anything like that. It will co-exist with other games in the buy to play category
    Rest In Peace, World of Warcraft. Subscriber count doesn't matter, WoW has been dead in spirit for a while
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  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongo4200 View Post
    I am willing to bet you Gw2 dies a slow death just like swtor and all the others .......
    you're on

    /fillup

  17. #97
    Another thing that's worth saying is the community in GW2 is really great. I've met so many players from so many other games, just pick up fun/play/chat with other people. It's really refreshing

    Challenge when we want it, something easier when we don't, so many choices in the game, it feels so free.
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  18. #98
    I bought guild wars 2 and can't really imagine myself enjoying WoW again. However, the 2 aren't related for me. WoW became unenjoyable on its own.

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Daffkeeks View Post
    you're on

    /fillup
    Don't tempt fate

    Fans and defenders of SWTOR, Warhammer, etc., also thought their game could never fail. Even I thought that SWTOR could manage 2-4 million subs, and co-exist with WoW, but look how that turned out
    Rest In Peace, World of Warcraft. Subscriber count doesn't matter, WoW has been dead in spirit for a while
    Rest In Peace, Star Wars the Old Republic. SWTOR is a fun RPG, but a bad MMO

  20. #100
    I did at first then I hit level 80 (and got full exotic geared) and the game fizzles out. The leveling was great, the combat is great but there's no long term PvE playability at the moment. The good thing is there's no fee and iv got my moneys worth (probably 250-300 hours) so im not to bothered I will come back to the game if/when Anet decide to add new content.

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