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  1. #361
    there are no changed for lvl 90 talents or elemental shaman except unleash glyph becoming baseline

  2. #362
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    Im quite unsure about my trinket options and would like some help. Ive got the 384 relic, the LFR breath of Hydra and the LFR Unherring vision of Lei Shen. I love my relic, but im wondering if im just holding back on the 2 LFR trinkets. Ive tryed Unherring vision, but i wasn't sure if the proc is worth the difference.

    The other trinket im using is the Shado-Pan one.

  3. #363
    I have just rerolled ele and am in my 3rd lockout with the new character. I am enjoying it a lot but aside from this guide a lot of the information on stat priority seems to be very vague. I have ran my gear through simc and it seems to spit out haste=mastery>crit and currently I am gearing haste > mastery > crit.

    Armory

    I have been told that as soon as I hit 4 piece and/or meta I am to switch to Mastery > haste > crit but I could stick with my current reforge priorities np. I am extremely inexperienced with this class and the different information flying around seems to tell me its a fluid situation. Still any help concerning reforges would be much appreciated.

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    (Oh btw I run Echo+EB on low movement and Echo+PE on high movement fights if that is of any importance.)

  4. #364
    Quote Originally Posted by Cairm View Post
    Im quite unsure about my trinket options and would like some help. Ive got the 384 relic, the LFR breath of Hydra and the LFR Unherring vision of Lei Shen. I love my relic, but im wondering if im just holding back on the 2 LFR trinkets. Ive tryed Unherring vision, but i wasn't sure if the proc is worth the difference.

    The other trinket im using is the Shado-Pan one.
    unerring vision's value is mainly in the passive int. elemental can't really do anything special with the proc, apart from hoping they can fire a 7 stack fulmination during the proc. most other classes can either recast their DoTs in there or time it with a big spell like a chaos bolt. shamans get nothing special from crits and, apart from 250% crits, don't have a really good reason to stack it.

    breath of the hydra is a really good trinket for elemental. passive haste and an int proc that has nice uptime.

    i'd go for relic and breath.
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    4) getting charms faster is also not pay2win. getting those is easy, but not everyone has the time or want for dailies.

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    Thanks alot. Will try that out.

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    gearing question, yeah i know one of those again, but I tried looking around and everything I found is just the two BiS trinkets not an actual ranking

    have unupgraded relic, essence of terror, and the Unerring Vision of Lei-Shen (both of the last ones lfr quality)

    what's the best combo of those? was thinking relic+UV but not 100% sure

    I hate trinkets -.-

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    I have been away for a LOOOONG time but I still read the forums. That being said, I am pretty out of touch with how Ele actually plays and how changes like the LvB one will effect it. The .5 to cast time obviously stinks, but the 25% more damage sounds like a HUGE buff for all of those instant casts.

    So yeah, is it a buff or a nerf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave131 View Post
    I have been away for a LOOOONG time but I still read the forums. That being said, I am pretty out of touch with how Ele actually plays and how changes like the LvB one will effect it. The .5 to cast time obviously stinks, but the 25% more damage sounds like a HUGE buff for all of those instant casts.

    So yeah, is it a buff or a nerf?
    Around a 6% single target buff.

    Source: http://www.totemspot.com/vb/showthre...4342#post84342

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telefonorm View Post
    Around a 6% single target buff.

    Source: http://www.totemspot.com/vb/showthre...4342#post84342
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  10. #370
    Kinda new the shaman here as well, started playing my ele alt a lot recently. Since mastery seems the best bet after getting the legendary meta, will the increased cast time on LvB cause haste to rise in value again (even with meta?) after patch hits? Since it should stop the gcd capping during Ascendance right?

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    In the same linkin the post above yours Binkenstein explans that Haste>Mastery now seems to sim as a 2400 dps increase over Mastery>Haste I believe even with 4pc and meta

  12. #372
    Quote Originally Posted by Brewid View Post
    In the same linkin the post above yours Binkenstein explans that Haste>Mastery now seems to sim as a 2400 dps increase over Mastery>Haste I believe even with 4pc and meta
    Correct. The difference is still only 1.1% though, so it really doesn't matter "alot." Ofcourse you should do anything to maximize, but the higher ilvl budget is most likely the better choice. Also, this change makes crit less appealing again, compared to the other stats, which is abit sad, crit isn't bad though.

  13. #373
    Elemental is my OS (resto MS), I'm just wondering about trinkets in general. Mainly UVLS and Wushoolay, are these good for elementals at all? I got Wushoolay from LFR and it seem a bit bad, I'm using Volatile and Shock-Charger Medallion at the moment.

  14. #374
    For those interested, I'm currently working on the leveling section, split per 10 levels with suggestions for glyphs, talents and gear. once it's finished, i'll PM it to Endus for approval. I hope to have it submitted by the end of the week.
    Because I want to say this every single day but don't want it to get a drag:
    1) The ingame store will only sell timesaver items. It won't affect balance.
    2) No, getting to 100 in half the time isn't pay2win. raids don't start until the second week, everyone has time to get there.
    4) getting charms faster is also not pay2win. getting those is easy, but not everyone has the time or want for dailies.

  15. #375
    Ok with the changes to Lava Burst in 5.3, how does the talent Unleashed Fury now compete with the other lvl90 talents?

    Also how does the basic spell Unleash Elements rank now with buffed Lava Burst, is it worth casting the basic UE to buff our new Lava Burst?

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    I'd like to know whether you guys have also found that 2Haste/Mastery > 1 int (at about 520 ilvl and above, at least). It seems that way based on this post: http://www.totemspot.com/vb/entry.php?b=91

    And regarding the supposed Lava Burst buff: A bit underwhelmed. I expected a lot more DPS, but I'm thinking a lot of my increased DPS this week came from the item upgrading, and it really wasn't that pronounced as I thought it would be. Burst is lower now as well. I'd like to know what other shammies are seeing from the buff.

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    There is a pending update for the guide, bringing it up to 5.3. Just waiting on Endus to copy it over, or you can refer to the original at Totemspot.com
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    I gotta ask, is the basic Unleash Elements worth casting to buff our new Lava Burst?

    Since Lava Burst hits that much harder (as well as it's mastery copy and Echo copy), perhaps the basic Unleash Elements is finally worth using in a PvE rotation?

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    What would be the ideal opener with EB? Lava Ele snapshots int buffs, right? So pre-pot, FS, LvB, EB, wait for trinks/enchants then drop FE, Stormlash and Ascendance?

  20. #380
    Quote Originally Posted by Umira View Post
    What would be the ideal opener with EB? Lava Ele snapshots int buffs, right?
    If you mean Fire Elemental Totem, then answer is no, pets/guardians are not snapshotting stats/buffs anymore and scaling in real time.
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