The only cd I could think would be Elemental mastery TALENT that u will have qued up with Ascendance, ther are very few use trinkets what i know of but many procs but Is it really worth to delay ascendance to get a strong fire ele i doubt it is.Glyph of Fire Elemental Totem
Advantage: Decreases the cooldown of Fire Elemental Totem from 5 minutes to 3 minutes
Disadvantage: Decreases the duration of Fire Elemental Totem from 60 seconds to 36 seconds
The duration:cooldown ratio remains the same, so what this glyph allows is a more frequent but shorter use of your Fire Elemental. While this results in an average uptime decrease of 9 seconds, it allows for better syncing & sharing of cooldowns with Ascendance which is also on a 3 minute cooldown.
I am really curious why is Vision of Lei Shen rated so high? In Anscendance, proc is wasted and during normal periods of dealing damage, I assume its best to use proc with Elemental Blast and Fulmination? But again, i cant see how is this trinket better than Cha-ye.
Shaman since MoP, Raider since Vanilla
eXample - Semi HC 12/14HC guild
Personally, I really dont see how even the proc can be valued that high, maybe mathboys can show their math, but In my opinion? very unreliable trinket in terms of dps. as long as it can proc during Ascendance, I wouldnt touch it, unless I got like not upgraded normal t14 trinkets or smth.
Because that's not how the contribution of the trinket would divvy out between parses. You're just inventing fictional numbers, rather than using actual data, and those fictional numbers don't reflect the reality to any remote degree, to boot.besides, simcraft doesnt tell me what I want to know. If it is better by 1000 dps on one pull out of 5 but worse on other four by 200 dps, why should I pick this one? Especially since most fights arent exactly patchwerks?
The sim's valuation of the trinket includes the low proc and duration rate. It's that good with that "unreliability" factored in. That's how the sim works.
And you'd pick it because it is, on average, better. The same reason you might stack mastery or crit over Haste, because even though they're a random chance, they're a higher value for you than Haste is. This isn't a new concept, applied to trinket procs, it's been part of the theorycraft for years, and this new trinket does not reflect any kind of necessary change to those principles.
Still no sign of Blizz buffing the Unleashed Fury talent for Elem in PvE...
So as an elemental shaman in raid environments it's recommended to take PE rather than EB?
Hello I have a few questions about optimizing my elemental shaman I was wondering if its worth dropping all of my tier pieces for the heroic helm from dogs upgraded haste shoulders from tortos and I was also debating on getting the leggings or the gloves from the Shado-pan assault vendor heres my Shaman's set up. I cant seem to link my toons armory yet lol but heres my name so u can copy n paste (Bråve)
Im 99% sure that the pure int gain from a thunderforged and 522 legs will be superior to the 4 pc set bonus 496 gear, the gloves have crit/haste legs have spirit/haste so depends on how much vp you have and if you particularly need hit, im going for legs first.
As to the helm, I would doubt its worth losing the 2pce bonus for a 502 item 5% of our base dps spell for 6ilvls doesn't compute
650 extra intellect a lot more haste, some extra spirit giving you more stats to reforge, and the 4 pce is very underpowered anyway, i dropped mine asap.
As were amory policing, I would question the choice of gems and reforges, you could easily lose 6% mastery and gain 6% haste if you jiggled it around, i find gemming pure intellect leaves you with less undesired stats to reforge out of. For example you have reforged from haste in to spirit on your legs yet have avoided the spirit socket bonus on the belt, and have reforged crit > mastery instead of crit > haste. The lack of haste breakpoints makes it hard to know what to aim for but I think 12% haste is way too low and 51% mastery way too high. Im sat at around 19% haste without buffs and about 40% mastery.
Last edited by draykorinee; 2013-04-02 at 05:15 PM.
I was trying locate this information but failed so I figured I would ask here:
Has anyone done any simming/math to figure out roughly what the net dps gain is on the 4 set bonus this tier?
I've been playing around with my spec each week so far because the Sims have us "performing" about the same with several different choices.
Currently - and my best run through so far - I'm using Echo/PE. I "KNOW" it says to use PE/AS for the extra Elemental Damage, but there are WAY too many small instances where Echo outperforms AS. Any time you even think about using Chain Lightning, Echo is going to win. So lets look at the fights that one would use Chain : Horridon, Council, Tortos, Megera (Heroic), Ji-Kun, Durumu (Heroic), Primordius, Iron Qon (Heroic), Twins (Heroic), Lei Shen.
For yellow gems, I'm using Int/Haste. I'm also reforging primarily for Haste (Currently around 8100).
I do have a question for the Theorycrafters. Someone was trying to tell me Lava Beam is not proccing properly with our Mastery / Echo. Is this true?
Last edited by Narwhal6; 2013-04-04 at 07:41 AM.
Is it worth Dropping 4 piece tier 14 for 2 piece tier 14/2 piece tier 15?