0 people will have canceled
Less than 500,000
500,000 - 1,000,000
1,000,001 - 2,000,000
2,000,001 - 3,000,000
More than 3,000,000
I only said less than 500,000 subs will be canceled instead of 0 is because there's bound to be the few people who quit for stupid reasons like hating pandas or pokemon. I mean, if you hate pandas don't play one, if you hate pokemon don't do it, I mean, it's stupid but people do it.
Zero idea, for 5.0 I'd say it end with more than 3m leaving, but what about 5.1 and 5.2?
What I wish? They get back to wrath days
What I see? "toilet flush sound", they didn't even upgrade the character you look at every second of day model
We know that there are AP subscribers in the "hater" category that will leave come November.
But I think they should be less than 500k. And if Blizz keeps up the 5.0 quality all the way through MoP, we may see a gain overall.
Five Common MMO-C Misconceptions:
1. If I'm burnt out on WoW, the game must be less exciting than it was in BC/Wrath.
2. If Guild Wars 2 can do it, WoW should have done it 4-9 years ago.
3. Anything I don't get free is another way to milk the players for money.
4. "Don't hate me because I disagree" is a good way to shut down dissenting arguments.
5. GC is the root of all WoW's problems. Now that he is gone the game will be perfect again.
This thread is bad and you should feel bad. I voted for your poll is biased and it'll probably gain.
I feel bad a brand new expansion brought back less than a million subs. Most of those will leave again taking others with them.
Personally I think MoP will have the biggest (either numbers-wise or percentage-wise) increase in subs out of all the expansions. So any subs that cancel by the end, would still not outweigh the new subs, thus making it a negative answer to this poll.
Since there is no negative option, I went with 0.
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With subs at 10 million AND CLIMBING, without China, I think the Poll should have a "MOP will shatter previous sub record" option.
@Ghostcrawler:Some advice: [My pet issue] is why there were sub losses is one of the weaker arguments players use. Players don't have that data.
I think these discussions are getting old.
To me it doesn't matter if WoW would drop 3M subs.
As long as I enjoy the game I'll play it. Others don't? Why should I care.
It's not like I'll quit cause others do!
I feel like wow will continue its decline for the next few years. Not because of any fault of wow, because of competition in the landscape. Not just the MMO landscape, the gaming landscape as a whole. PC gaming when wow came out in 2004 was in trouble. Piracy ran the gaming scene, only few titles were really doing well, and there was a big push towards consoles because they were so much more profitable. I remember when WoW originally came out I was coming to it from other MMO's and I had absolutely no desire to play any single player games there just wasn't any good ones. Yeah I was playing CS and WC3 like everyone else but lets face it, outside of valve/blizzard there wasn't much going on with PC gaming.
These days its the opposite. There are more good PC games then I can count. I mean, just before MoP was released Torchlight 2 and Borderlands 2 came out. Both games I need to play, but are on the backburner for the first couple months of mop. I have a backlog of steam games a mile long that I haven't played yet. When I cancel wow, that's when these games get serious play time.
Also the MMO market has picked up much since that era. People here on mmo-champ are for the most part pretty serious blizzard fans and don't like to admit it, but the fact is there are some great wow alternatives out there right now. Rift doesn't get any respect here but I know more people playing Rift then WoW, all of them were at one point or another WoW players, most haven't touched it since BC or Wrath. GW2 is not direct competition for wow but can fill the mmo void without having to worry about a sub fee or feeling that "pull" to play because you're paying for it.
I just think there's more options now, and as those options continue to increase, wow subs will decrease. Not because Blizzard is doing anything wrong or because the game sucks, its just a matter of people having limited free time and having to choose what they do with it. Let me put it this way, if Home Depot opens up in a town with no hardware shops in 2004 its going to do great. If in 2007 Lowes moves in, 2009 Rona moves in, 2012 Home Hardware moves in and the population of that town doesn't increase by 4x, there is no way Home Depot will still be doing the same level of business they did in 2004. Impossible, and its not their fault. I believe the number of great games and solid MMO's is increasing at a faster rate then the amount of gamers being added to the scene. This means a decline in wow, and its nobodies fault.