Yeah I figured that was the main reason the damage wasn't that great. Its disappointing that you need a fair bit heroic gear for the spec to work.
I'm 529, I have a heroic ( 535 ) wand and 522 BoTH and the 522 crit trinket. I definitely see the potential of the spec, even without the wusholay's trinket I can do pretty well.
I tried out arcane yesterday for a little bit just to see how invoarc was and I absolutely LOVED IT, to the point where I'm considering switching once my guild downs lei shen.
I haven't played arcane since like the first or second week of ToT so I am kind of out of the loop on some things and after some very brief trawling through the posts in this thread I couldn't come up with a definite answer for what I am looking for. If I were to go invoarc (knowing full well that RoP arc is the more optimal version, I'm just looking for a fun playstyle for farming) would I want to reforge Haste>Mastery and gem haste or Mastery>Haste and gem mastery or some combo of the two of some sort. I am currently just using Mastery>Haste with crit gemming (since I am still fire) but kind of feel haste would edge over mastery for this playstyle.
Hi. I've been having a pretty long break from oh'sweet Arcane this tier. After reading a few pages in this thread, the full haste/invocation build caught my eye(just as it did in 5.1).
So, going with this build. What will the ideal rotation for Single target be? Do we ever drop stacks?
I'm currently 529ilvl, with the legendary meta gem.
When you say halved mastery value, would that put crit's value above mastery at that point? Bascially making it so I use frost gearing?
@Dissemoen What I did was just spam AB, never cast ABar (except on alter time resets) and used procs as they came, evoing when I didn't have mana, I don't know if this is 100% ideal but the results I got were decent http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...&e=7339#Voltaa
Normal logs (bearing in mind that HC Lei Shen is hardly different in terms of mechanics, it's largely increased damage from boss and increased health with Helmet of Command during transitions) put my month-old Arcane parse at 5th best overall, and this was now a month ago. I've not done the fight since and I'm 100% confident I could push over 200K on that fight currently. ESPECIALLY with the AoE buff, Arcane is very strong there. AE is now strong enough to warrant use; and playing as Mastery Arcane the damage of it only gets increased. I get that Voltaa's playing Invocane, but that actually only improves his mobility on that fight which is a good thing.
Edit: Posting logs from this fight is very silly because it doesnt say very much. You will rank very high if you spawn extra ads during normal phases or transition. The only phase where Arcane shines is during the second phase (after the first transition).
Arcane is alot better in 25m Lei Shen than 10m Lei Shen due more balls and AE spam with Mastery. But it is not even close to Fire in the p3.
If what you say about third phase is true and my dps is too crippled I will go back but so far I have really liked the output and mobility that I have on the fight
@pyrod it could be that invo isn't all that great, it could also be that I haven't played any form of arcane in about two and a half months and still need to work out the kinks in what I am doing as for which is true only time and testing will tell
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single target haste>crit=mastery
would prefer going mastery for trash lolzzzz
I didn't mean your logs, I saw Serene posting logs from 25m normal Lei Shen where Arcane and Fire only differed a few thousand DPS.
Why I think Frost would do better than Arcane is because you can save your instants + Frozen Orb + Ice Floes for the winds. But since I haven't tried Frost on this boss I can't say for sure that it's better, but I would belive it to be.
I have killed the boss 3 times as Arcane, 1 time with RoP and 2 times with IW. I found IW to be alot better because you could easily time it with Thunderstruck and I had a really hard time to maintain uptime on RoP but after the nerf I suppose IW is not even an option for Arcane anymore.
Ofc you should should play Arcane if you are more comfortable with it than you are with Fire. But speaking from my own experience I would not have want to progress on this boss as Arcane ;D
What you guys think about;
Living bomb > Nether Tempest and Incaster ward > Rune of power in 5.3 ?
Best to swap to LB & IW ?
Living Bomb is better single target; outside of that it's very marginal between the two. The more targets, the further NT pulls ahead due to cleaving and no target cap.
RoP > IW aside from a select few fights
Don't see how you can use rune of power in phase 3 on heroic lei shen. It's pretty much impossible.