Those same issues apply equally to dungeon content which has been updated since its original implementation.
There just has been no real need, no metaphorical "kick up the backside" to actually update the the raid content at lower levels simply because there was not the option for the playerbase to feasibly participate in those raids at their appropriate level and gear.
Such a feature sounds like the perfect opportunity to do just that, to revisit the content and to update it based on current mechanics.
Hardly a trivial task I know, but I can see that offering a huge part of what those asking for "vanilla" servers are asking for, the classic raids actually being difficult again.
Maybe describes perfectly my thoughts.
Thank you for putting it there rather than making a plain "yes" or "no" poll, @OP!
End content will always have top priority and time is limited. If by any chance we re done with current content, than definately we would do organized runs to old content that has been skipped by us.
With tiers like this one, or tier 11, having time, is rather unlikely, taking out the top 1000 guilds.
With tiers like Dragon Soul, or TOGC, it is very likely, a lot of people to be able to spare some time for the old content.
I would prefer never to see another Dragon Soul or another TOGC though if i had to chose. Even if that means that we would never have the time to visit old content with downscaled stats that would make old content relevant.
Would be fun to do the 40 men raids lol. It'll be hard to do those though, so I don't see this happening when guilds are still doing the new raid content available.
hell yeah. but only via LFR. yes, I went there. imagine trying to get 40 people for old school raids on your realm. Unless they improve the rewards...
If they ever implement that, it'd better be a choice! If I can't solo old raids at 90 (or 95, 100, whatever), but automatically get scaled down to the raid's level, I'll quit.
On farm yes, on progression no.
Agreed should be only optional, do not want to be lvl 90 that can not do karazhan /tempest and rest all raids solo.
Same with dungeons heroic.
scale-down is a highly dubious proposition - characters, abilities, stat point impact (dps and health), etc is completely changed from when any old raid was current. I found it possible, at level 60 during cataclysm, to have ap and do dps comparable to what was expected of a dps in kara in bc. I think the only challenge a raid of toons scaled down to 60, say, will find is raids where you have to actually have a clue about what to do, e.g. walk into BWL with tank-n-spank in mind and expect surprises, or not?
Unfortunately, experiencing old raid/dungeon content as it was when current isn't possible (to say nothing of removed raids, particularly naxxramas). Private-side options don't have the scripting, and may be mistuned as well.
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One thing I would bet money on in the scale-down scenario is all the resistance/special item requirements of certain fights would be gone.
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Boom I feel the same way.
However this also seems a great way to reintroduce removed mounts/titles/crap like that. Also maybe stipulate that any legendary could be transmogable if you have it and clear a raid in this fashion. Could definitely be a way to give pve'ers more to do aside from current raids.
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I'm sure they would address this by removing attunements and probably scale the raids down to 25m size. Who knows though. Also to people pointing out that a toon at level 60 now is as powerful as and entry level 70 in bc, if they take the time to scale things, im sure there will be a very severe penalty to all parties entering the raids. What is the point of making old content still somewhat relevant again if it isn't even marginally challenging.
Last edited by axeplay; 2012-09-30 at 04:30 AM.
There is a fine line between clever and stupid.
Disregarding everything else, if this was ever implemented, it would have to downscale us. All the raids would otherwise again become completely obsolete in the following expansion. They would have no longevity and would simply turn into what Onyxia is to us nowadays. It is not reasonable to expect that they would be tuned over and over again to fit whatever the latest level cap is.
Last edited by Keoren; 2012-09-30 at 04:55 AM.
I have progressed on them back then so no thanks I don't tend to shit on decent memories. It would be entirely retarded anyways as I see no way that any amount of "down scaling" would cause the raid to feel even remotely like they were considering all the class changes that have taken place.