Last edited by Evolixe; 2012-10-09 at 08:26 PM.
Compairing rogues to warrior isn't the way to go. Otherwise we will start a comparison with warriors and druids (won't go anywhere), warriors and DKs (also won't go anywhere). The MS nerf was came with all classes wanting to have that debuff, blizz listened and ended up nerfing it.When warriors (not yourself) say that rogues are fine because they are a utility class, it does make sense to then compare rogue utility to warrior utility to highlight how (as you mentioned) classes have been normalised and the unique lockdown of a rogue has been given to others. Otherwise yeah, it's silly to compare for example a mage to a paladin.... unless the mage starts arguing that paladins have too much CCI DO AGREE, but please stop compairing two diferent classes.
Last edited by Dcruize; 2012-10-10 at 12:55 PM.
Rogues arent a utility class atall..
infact, rogues are the only PURE melee ingame.
DK's can tank
warriors can tank
paladins can heal/tank
druids can heal/tank/ranged
monks can heal/tank
the ONLY pure melee is a rogue, and we are at the bottom of that pile. in both damage AND utility. there is a problem there, simple as that.
I havent met any rogue yet in a BG, they are overnerfed. Well atleast i can level my shammy xD
Trumpsupporters are a plague that needs to be terminated.
I feel rogues are overnerfed, bigtime, yes we scale well with gear. so change that. you can cry utility all you want, the fact is every other mele has the same/more utility nowadays, especially hybrids (anyone remember the old, 'kitties should be doing less dps then rogues are they are pure dps' haha...
smaller toolkit, smaller dps.
it isnt right.
what other melee has even CLOSE to the utility of rogues apart from warriors right now?
You know sub is better then Assa in pvp,right?
I can't kill someone within 10 seconds of stunlocks and disarms while I regen 6k hp/3s any more?!
GOD, BLIZZ! /wrist
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Nothing happened to rogues.
Something just happened to everyone else.
Grats, everyone else is now on par with your class.
Originally Posted by High Overlord Saurfangi7-860 @2.8GHz | Radeon HD 7770 | 8GB DDR3-1333MHz | Corsair CX 430W |
holy sh**! soooo many people in this thread, who think they know it all and keep on spewing out random advice over rogues~~
person 1: "rogues are pvp-dps. if you wanna do dps in pve, you gotta play another class"
person 2: "rogues are pve-dps, if you wanna do dps in pvp, you gotta play another class"
yeah right, why dont you just go and drill yourself a hole in your knee please? i would very much appreciate this!
my personal experience as a combat rogue: im, most of the time, at the top in 5 man heroics - even on single target-fights. but it gets different in raids - we got some good burstdamage with ar and shadowblades, but after that it just starts to feel too slow and clunky. you're just waiting for the energy to regen/getting a few lucky proccs so you can ss again, wich is quite boring. maybe its gonna get better with 3k+ haste, but for the moment its very boring and i'd prefer the paladins fcfs-rotation any day over this.
my gearlvl is btw only around 454 or so, but i completely reforged and enchanted myself to the hit- and exp-cap.
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Actually i think we should really have our regular throw apply poisons.. right now the only use is keeping the enemy in combat and tbh, it applying poisons wouldnt even be OP. (Refer: Shuriken Throw)
Honestly though, the Arena Pass has just opened and after finishing itemizing the character i ended up with 48.27% PvP Power and over 46% mastery. The amount of damage i can dish out with cooldowns up is really really insane.
The problem is is that i dont want that damage, i want proper control :/