Anduin sees the bigger picture for all of Azeroth. While I don't agree with aiding the Horde after Theramore in any shape or form, I guess it's just stepping stones for the story beyond Mists.
I absolutely disagree with working with the horde because of theramore, but I also disagree with going to war with them because of theramore.
Because Horde VS Alliance is old news and has become tiresome. It's time for a new direction.
My favorite characters in Warcraft are the ones that are more Neutral, and strive for a Harmonious Azeroth.
Hence, I love Anduin Wrynn, each to their own however.
He's had more life experience at his age then most adults, so I don't really get that. He constantly had people messing with him and trying to abduct or kill him his whole life. He's been kidnapped and help prisoner on his own like 3+ times now? He always manages to keep his cool and come up with a plan. He's also dealt with the death of his pretty much father and close friend, Bolvar very well. Also saved his father from starting another dwarven civil war on his own and he's still a child... when he gets older he is going to a force to be reckoned with. He even has friends within the faction of his enemies that support him. As a child he's already 1000x more cunning and has shown to be a better leader for his people then Varian.
Also Thall and Jaina back in WC3 were many peoples favorite characters and they were all about bridging the gap between factions. They are better for Azeroth as a whole. Without people like them the legion would have already crushed the horde and alliance and will crush them in the future in there return. People like Anduin are Azeroths only hope. I get that people enjoy the whole waring factions concept, I do to. When it comes to something like the legion though the only hope for Azeroth is if horde and Alliance to work together. Neither is powerful enough on their own.
Anduin is trying to take the path that leads to the Alliance surviving rather then getting crushed by the greater threat by wasting time on a lesser one, I just don't see how that's shameful at all. As a Horde player he's always been one of my favorite Alliance ones because he actually understands the Horde and how it doesn't work like the Alliance does. He understands the Horde are different people and have a different way of living. That fighting is in their bones unlike the Alliance who enjoy peacetime. He knows that the Horde can suffer from over aggressive moments and the occasional extremist commander because of their nature, like how the Alliance can be to complacent at times because of their nature(WC3 when the plague first appeared, ignoring Medivh). He knows that if you poke the Horde with a stick they are going to swing back with a bat, they thrive in war. He wants to sit back and let someone else poke the horde, give time for their true enemies to surface. Varian takes every skirmish as a personal insult to Alliance honor, while Anduin understands that its the nature of the horde. The new horde doesn't have the unity the Alliance does or the history of working together with each other like they do, sometimes shit hits the fan and orders aren't followed.
That's why Thrall was so good for Azeroth and the Horde/Alliance. He settled the horde in a wasteland to direct their energies elsewhere during peace and pushed them towards other enemies like demons and LK. He also knew how to throw the hammer down when someone got out of line.
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I personally hope there setting him up to get the axe in MoP. Being caught and beheaded by Garrosh...it would piss off the entire Alliance and a lot of the Horde, giving Baine and Vol'jin a reason to revolt.
I do believe the op hasn't read any of the books so he has no idea what his talking about.
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If I wanted a warmonger that wanted to paint Azeroth blue, I'd join the Horde.
"I quit WoW."
If I say it's Azshara next enough times, eventually I'll be right. So here we go again. It's got to be Azshara next, so get ready for the Sylvanas expansion we inevitably get instead!
Yeah, I totally agree. WoW should only have characters who go "rawr me kill u". Any other type of character is just horribly written or boring. This game ain't World of PEACEcraft is it? No. Everyone should want to kill each other and go to war, there is no peace in a world of warcraft. /s
Reading the comments here makes me sad. Even sadder than the whole Thrall/Garosh switch back what feels like ages ago.
To shudder that people think like that in reality.
Can I just add that he is probably one of the best characters in WoW.
He has always been this way and never switched his personality back and forth. He has always been about looking for common ground.
He is a nice contrast to Garrosh. Varian is the father of Anduin as Grom is to Garrosh. Grom and Varian were both leaders, although in very different situations and ways but they are to an extent dramatic or have bestial/insane strength under pressure (Varian with his wolf spirit and Grom killing Mannoroth). Garrosh has always been about "I hate what my father done and I want to bring respect to my family once more" yet he is very bipolar and commits unspeakable horrors. Anduin has always been about peace, and even at troublesome times (being captured by Horde) he has never been cruel or downgraded someone by their race.
I understand WoW is about war, but we wouldn't be able to play this game if it was constant massacre. We need people like Jaina, Thrall and Anduin. They are the light in the dark people. Once the legion comes, I bet you will change your mind about how Anduin became a legendary part of the Alliance. He should have a statue in front of Turalyon and Alleria.
For some reason I have a feeling that Garrosh has Anduin killed, and this is what causes the Horde to turn on him and the Siege of Orgrimmar raid. It would be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back; better to die opposing him than live in fear of him and let innocents be murdered.
i dont think the war will really ever end but i do see them coming to a sort of truce whenever the legion returns. i mean they basically set aside their difference ever expansion to get rid of the big bad right?
didnt they sort of work together on quel'danas to make sure kj wasnt summoned thru the sunwell? didnt they sort of work together in icc to get rid of the lich king? didnt they sort of work together to get rid of deathwing? i mean you could argue that they fought each other along the way, but in my opinion in the end they basically all said "well we need to kill this dude before he destroys azeroth"
thats kinda the way i feel about the "peace" anduin is/will bring when the legion returns. think back to the wc3 campaign, when medivh finally got jaina and thrall together. they made a truce and they worked together. in a couple of the missions you had orcs and humans in the came camps together, they argued but they ultimately realized the end game goal was to destroy archimonde, this was proven even moreso in the final fight of the campaign where you had all 3 factions working together. this is how i think the next legion expac will unfold. you'll see a sort of "argent crusade" faction that you work for and then at the end of the expac someone will ultimately screw up and the war will be back on.
just my opinion however
That's why I like him. He's the only one who's making sense. There's a lot of big threats to Azeroth and distracting your faction with some petty war is the worst thing you can do. The end of the Jade Forest has the Alliance and Horde fighting each other in a big battle. This summons an enormous Sha which hurts both armies AND the innocents of the forest. If people were passive like Anduin nothing would happen and they'd focus on not causing pointless destruction for everyone, even themselves.
Everyone's always like "I hate how Thrall's such a carebear" and etc etc etc. But thats because there's actually important things to worry about, not the Ally VS Horde war. If the legion invades Azeroth and they're too busy/weakened from killing each other, GG my friends. Great idea to fight each other instead of focusing on important matters.
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And the whole "Lets hold hands and work together" isnt tiresome? You know the theme we have gotten in WC3, BC, Wrath, and Cata?
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Examples include the Forsaken rebellion and the Cataclysm itself.
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
Peace between the Alliance and the Horde dosen't mean PEACECraft. Typicly there was peace between the two factions untill Wotlk, there was just rising tensions between the two in a unsteady peace.
With so much crap going on with the Old gods and the Legion, and the repairing of a broken world, the Horde and Alliance can't afford to bicker, that is what Wrathion and Anduin are going on about.
Also. I find it hilarious that people think that Anduin going 'neutral' means that he'd clap his hands at the Horde slaughtering the Alliance. No. That isn't going neutral. Thats turn coating. Anduin is trying to have the Alliance and Horde work together, if the Horde didn't play nice, he'd put them in a time out.