Ever calculated the damage of both (NT and FB)? Frostbomb is about 30% stronger on single target (assuming perfect use of both). I prefer playing with frost bomb, because it´s predictable (BF proc). Playing with Essence of Terror and the 4p must be a blast. I try to sim IV with EoT proc only (extending proc and veins with AT everytime EoT procs)
Last edited by citizenpete; 2012-12-13 at 02:25 PM.
Frost Bomb gives you one proc every 8 seconds or so, NT has a potential to give much higher. I'm using NT on every fight and my dps is very similar to yours in worse gear, although you have ranked a bit higher than me on some fights. NT just feels like it has alot more BF potential and that I'm getting more out of it, and there was maths somewhere in this thread I believe that showed LoC hc + NT would beat frostbomb. But I don't have the trinket, so wouldn't be abel to tell you.
You can´t compare my ranks, cause im switching gear nearly every night or doing a dungeon reforged for 1 particular fight (12% hit for WotE for example, or reforged for fire because we´re progressing garalon). I´m the raidlead, kicker, stunner whatever.
The few I have, are made with a blue trinket or with NT and LoC nhc. Sure NT has the potential to give you higher - and lower and proccing to fast and overwrite themselves.
Once I have the time to SimC BiS hc with EoT and DMC, I´ll show you the advantage - or maybe with ranks, if progress is finished.
Last edited by citizenpete; 2012-12-13 at 03:39 PM.
Can you please link your character? I will look at it
With NT and LoC - Zoomed : 102851 dps
With FB and EoT - Zoomed : 105440 dps
No problem, you´re welcome : )
Zoomed : 103741 dps with LoC hc by the way
Keep in mind that all the numbers are assuming perfect frost bomb use. If you find because of the fight, or movement, or for any reason you aren't using it on cd you can try nt.
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i´ved progressed until feng hc (in blue and epic mixed gear) with frost and could done nearly every boss with FB. Will was the only execption. There are to less bosses which made me swap. I couldn`t rember a boss, which needed LB.
It´s quite nice to have a choice and the differences between the lvl 75 talents are 2 - 4k dps only - with 496 gear. Zor'lok hc is another NT fight in my opinion, but I couldn´t get my hands on EoT : /
Blizzard haven´t done a good blancing job with our 3 specs. Zor'lock hc for example: Frost and Fire are waay too far behind for that fight, compared to other pures and even hybrid classes. Arcane is pretty decent, because of it´s enormous output during tank & spank phases.
Once again PvP ruined Pve and vice versa. Arcane is pretty strong in PvE at the moment, because it seems to be crappy in PvP, coincidence?
Unless the actual game code would prevent this it seems like the most viable solution to a significant problem. The classes can vary a bit but it would be nice to have nearly all classes and specs provide viable dps.
So I have been thinking about the boot enchant. What is the reason for us to use Pandaren's Step (140 mastery and 8% run speed) instead of just Greater Haste (175 haste) does the 8% run speed with the 140 mastery actually beat out the 175 haste?
From what I have understood, haste is our strongest of the three secondary stats (Not counting hit there), going Haste > Crit > Mastery.
I'm sure a lot of us make use of blink a lot when it comes to movement, so is pandaren's step still better here?
The choice of Pandaren step is just because of the 8% run speed. It's especially useful in the actual fight where there's a lot of movement.
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