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    So as of October 5th, now that all these ilvl changes have happened, can we get a refresh of the list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimpan View Post
    I'm fire.

    Robe would give me about.. 100 more int, 126 haste,474 mastery.. but make me lose 560 crit.
    Gloves would give me about.. 160 more int, 373 hit, 141 mastery but make me lose 478 haste (or 490 crit if I get the crit gloves).

    The question is; Is it worth the int gain to lose the crit? For glove its a upgrade, but robe Im not so sure.
    Honest question: do you not know how to do the calculation? or are you simply asking someone else to do the math for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benno View Post
    So as of October 5th, now that all these ilvl changes have happened, can we get a refresh of the list?
    There is no change as far as I'm aware of.

    Klaxxi - Legs - 2250
    Klaxxi - Ring - Revered Quest
    Golden Lotus - Ring - 1250
    August Celestials - Bracers - 1250
    August Celestials - Boots - 1750

    Are still the BiS come Nov 7th. You won't be able to buy from August Celestial for a few weeks anyways.

    In the meantime:
    - Sha of Anger drops a quest item for everyone for 476 quest boots.
    - Go earn 1350 Conquest points and buy the Malevolent Bracers.
    - August Celestial Valor pieces are still better than both of the above.
    Last edited by Windry; 2012-10-05 at 06:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windry View Post
    Honest question: do you not know how to do the calculation? or are you simply asking someone else to do the math for you?

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-05 at 11:44 AM ----------



    I'm not quiet sure how to do the calcs myself, but if I did the maths and tried Id prob. figured it out. However, I got a 49x robe from bonus roll last night so it worked it self out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimpan View Post
    I'm not quiet sure how to do the calcs myself, but if I did the maths and tried Id prob. figured it out. However, I got a 49x robe from bonus roll last night so it worked it self out
    Congrats on the robe.
    This is the proper way to do the calculation for future reference:

    1) Figure out the difference in stats (after reforging)
    - "Gloves would give me about.. 160 more int, 373 hit, 141 mastery but make me lose 478 haste."

    2) Download and open Simulation Craft - it's a very small download and very light program.
    http://code.google.com/p/simulationcraft/downloads/list
    Unzip and run the program. (There is no install, you just run it).

    3) Set up your simulation
    - 3rd tab: Import your toon from bnet, or the toon you want to check from char dev
    - 2nd tab: Options : set iterations to 10,000.
    - 2nd tab -> 4th mini tab: Scaling: Make sure: Int, SP, Haste, Mastery, Crit, Hit are all checked.

    4) Simulate! (Depending on your computer this will take 1-5 minutes.)

    5) Apply the results: Near the top of the results there should be a table for your scaling factors.
    It will look something like:
    Int: 3.5
    Haste: 1.6
    Crit: 1.9
    Hit: 2.8
    Mastery: 1.2

    ^ these are numbers I just made up.
    then apply "Gloves would give me about.. 160 more int, 373 hit, 141 mastery but make me lose 478 haste."
    3.5(160) + 2.8(373) + 1.2(141) vs 1.6(478)
    ^ In this example, with my imaginary scale numbers, the answer is an obvious "Yes, it's a solid upgrade."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windry View Post
    Klaxxi - Ring - Revered Quest
    Care to elaborate on that plz?
    Is there a quest that gives a ring? Or am i missing sth?

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    Think he/she means exalted, reached revered today and i have not seen this quest.
    http://www.wowhead.com/quest=31612

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    Thanks for the guide, I did not notice no legs dropping from there, and that has some effect. I am though going to buy a waist propably, instead of boots, will see.
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...time-with-lore 4th specs from a pure lore standpoint.
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...0#post17518830 Read / Add your ideas for new endgame formats/variables.

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    Well got legs from a raid, and since I'm an enchanter-blacksmith the ring or the bracers seem like attractive choices I suppose.
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    There's also the shot at getting tier legs...
    And there's a neck second boss? I think... its better too..

    Best investment is the ring, IMO. (every spec is in need of haste atm).


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