My God you are damn right TEHPALLY, I put my stats in Askmrrobot and it didn't seem to mention that I was over on hit. I just noticed this when I read the thread. I am very confused as to why it seems to still tell me to use the green gems that give me extra hit... I will take your advice and change up my Gems as soon as I get on tonight. Thank you again does anyone happen to know what to change the stat weight as so I can get an accurate reading from Askmrrobot?
Amalama, I'm from AskMrRobot and I looked up your character. First of all, green gems with hit were chosen because the socket bonus was worth it, even though hit was essentially worth 0. You might ask why a stamina hybrid wasn't used: it's because the weight on stamina is 0 (makes the optimizations faster). So I did 2 things: I set the weight of hit to 0, just to see how LOW you could get your hit. The lowest you can get is 10.24, so the advice to swap out the trinket is probably good. Next, I set the weight of stamina to 0.5 so MR. Robot would choose stamina hybrid gems. Here's the result.
As a side note, we're close to finishing our new algorithm for optimizing. Since it is showing to be 10x to 100x faster in most cases, we can put a weight on stamina to avoid these types of cases We ran my character through the optimizer and got a result in 10 milliseconds. Most cases are around 100 milliseconds though. Our goal with this is to guarantee the absolute BEST solution, in a very fast time So keep an eye out for the beta test announcement.
Awesome Zoopercat, Thank you so much. I am going to try and get that new trinket from LFR if I am able to and will try and make these adjustments tonight. I made it home way too late last night to do anything more than just mount runs sadly... I will definitely be looking out for the new Beta and see where it takes me. Thanks again guys for all of the help!
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does LFR feather beat the valor trinket? My combo currently is TF spark + valor. Im having a hard time with swapping to the LFR feather because I have the hit/crit sword from council and am stuck wearing tier gloves (i have TF rein binders but cant wear them cause i need to keep 4pc) until i can get the tier pants. I would be so overloaded on hit.
after reading this thread...i may just end up getting the valor point trinket.
not that we are owning horridon...we've only downed him 2 or 3 times...but no trinket.
as of right now was going with normal lei shin's last order and lfr spark...if lfr spark is behind the valor trinket...i may as well get that thing.
love the fact that i've gotten the lfr spark 3 times without even rolling for it. fantastic.
oh, and that i'm at 8.5% hit and can't get rid of anymore hit....if i get that sword from council at some point...yikes on the hit.
While I don't main my Ret anymore I have paid attention to numbers and last night in the alt run the Gaze dropped since I was the only strength user in the raid I figured might as well toy with it. While I'm certainly not an advocate for that trinket as it is crit based and we have shit for crit. I would say it's very close to Heroic Lei Shen's Final Orders 2/2 upgraded. I ran several tests last night and the values are very close. So given the trinket I would say the 522 Gaze is as good as the Heroic Lei Shins non upgraded.
It's a good trinket to take over DE if you don't already have Lei Shins Heroic upgraded. It's too bad we don't value crit at all the trinket would be a lot of fun.
I can confirm Requital's assessment that Gaze is close to 510 LSFO. I have it as well and my findings are the same. In addition, Simulationcraft shows that they are quite similar.
Here is a snapshot of a number of trinkets sim'd against my gear. 4pc t15 (522) along w/ 522 Wep. Each trinket is sim'd individually so this doesnt take into account how 2 trinkets interact with each other. Also note that FFoJ, PToR, and BTotSA are all reforged to haste and the hit/exp are entirely over cap and not utilized. Interestingly, I show PToR as slightly better than SoZ.
Code:FFoJ_522 : 133785 dps PToR_528 : 132248 dps FFoJ_502 : 131761 dps PToR_522 : 131660 dps SoZ_522 : 131004 dps LSFO_510 : 130399 dps GotT_522 : 130366 dps PToR_502 : 129935 dps BTotSA : 129886 dps Relic_484 : 129295 dps SoZ_502 : 129207 dps GotT_502 : 128803 dps
suggestions for a addon that track trinket icds?
How about an abbreviations list ??