New Ret Trinkets Rating Estimation Thread - Seeing through the Mists [WIP]

[Zephur]

Half a day late, but OP is updated for the 4pc nerf. New spreadsheet release. Removed Heroic & LFR JCF, as well as Cataclysm trinkets.

Nothing major. Lei Shin's and DMV get a slight nerf of about 3.5%. Lessons of the Darkmaster will serve you well if you have bad luck with trinket drops.

[hugsofdeath]

Can you update it with the new trinket from the ptr from shieldwall?

thanks

[Deleted]

Which would be Helmbreaker Medallion i guess

Nice deaths choice icon though, stupid @&@!!^&$@# never dropping trinket

[Zephur]

Can you update it with the new trinket from the ptr from shieldwall?

thanks

Added. Pretty lacklustre with that crit proc.

[Deleted]

Is it worth putting 1750 VP on Iron Belly Wok or should I wait and hope for Lei Shin's Final Orders since at higher ilvl you're suppose to priority haste over strength.

[Krekko]

Merging this. The trinket Rating thread has always been a great resource. If you can't find the answer to your question from the main post, I'm positive the posters will be glad to answer your questions

[Matrlx]

Now i have 3 trinkets , Lei Shin's Final Orders ( LFR) Iron Belly Wok ( shado pan ) , Relic of Xuen ( DMF )
i really need some advices guys , what should i pick i couldnt decide between 2 Str or 1 str and haste + str proc or 1 str + haste button click

[Veliane]

Now i have 3 trinkets , Lei Shin's Final Orders ( LFR) Iron Belly Wok ( shado pan ) , Relic of Xuen ( DMF )
i really need some advices guys , what should i pick i couldnt decide between 2 Str or 1 str and haste + str proc or 1 str + haste button click

You could have just taken a glance to the original post.......


Use Lei Shin and Xuen although you don't deserve either

[Zoma]

According to the front page of MMO-C, Relic of Xuen is getting nerfed and the Alchemist trinket is getting buffed in Patch 5.1

[Firegalus]

According to the front page of MMO-C, Relic of Xuen is getting nerfed and the Alchemist trinket is getting buffed in Patch 5.1

Be curious to see where that put the DMC in relation to the others, need to wait for Zephur or others to sim it out

[Reith]

I guess they didn't want it competing with 496 trinkets.. oh well, will just have to upgrade to normal Darkmist Vortex when I can.

[Requital]

Be curious to see where that put the DMC in relation to the others, need to wait for Zephur or others to sim it out

Xuen will drop to approximately 537 points to 7638, Meaning that it will move right between Darkmist Vortex and LFR Lei Shin's Final Orders those are Heroic gear calculations.

[Sturmcantor]

Except DMC cards aren't being nerfed. Datamining error.

[Reith]

Except DMC cards aren't being nerfed. Datamining error.

Yay for datamining errors!

[ErothTV]

Sorry, but I haven't checked the whole thread.
Can You give us the detailed numbers for Coren's trinket? It's not included in the file.

How is that looking like?

[Sturmcantor]

It's looking like utter crap. Don't use it. A 463 + Ghost Iron Dragonling is better. 2 463s is better.

[Peking_Man]

I have Relic of Xuen and Lessons of the Darkmaster. I just won LFR Lei Shin's Final Orders. Do I replace lessons of the dark master?

[ErothTV]

Why would You even ask?
Yes. If you lack expertise, use reforge to get the cap again.

[Zephur]

If Zen Alch Stone or the DMF cards end up being upgradeable, I'll add a line for each level of the upgrade.

All questions about whether a trinket swap is an upgrade can be answered by the Excel tool. Play around with it; at certain stat weights, the order can shift around slightly. However, BiS is pretty much unchanging at H Lei Shin > H Vortex > N Lei Shin > Relic of Xuen = N Vortex. Anything below that should be checked for yourself.

[Reith]

Heroic Darkmist Vortex seems a bit lackluster for what is supposed to be the best trinket of the tier for us. It's at a 509 ilvl vs heroic Lei Shin's Final Orders which is 502 ilvl, but heroic Lei Shin's Final Orders is superior. Doesn't seem right to me, but whatever.