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    Quote Originally Posted by whoranzone View Post
    Considering the amount of rankings I'd say that tanks are still pulling retarded damage so...
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    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=2427&e=2992

    Prot damage does seem a little bit excessive but in terms of challenge modes and fairly tight enrages like Elegon, the encounters seem to be tuned around that level of tank DPS so its probably a little late to change it without upping everyone elses damage quite considerably or adjusting the run times on each instance / Enrages

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    It isn't the short end of the stick, you have to understand that Blizzard are buffing warriors in their desired niche, namely fighting 3 AND ONLY THREE mobs at once, what with cleave, revenge etc.

    Derp.

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    DKs are doing more damage than all the other tanks so we'll nerf Warrior AoE and Single Target Damage and that should bring all of the tanks into balance.

    Makes total sense.
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    The deep wounds nerf is quite a large single target one, given that it was doing 8686696 on the Elegon fight, I realise there are adds but they are up for a tiny proportion of the fight and they don't have the damage taken increased debuff, albeit the 50% more damage done by myself. At the very least 150k DPS instead of 138k

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    Anyone find the difference between prot warrs and blood dks in pve to be a little ridiculous? Tonight on Elegon 10 I was pulling about 57k dps on him up until the final phase/cycle as I was pooling rage for barriers to use on his breath isntead of using them for offensive skills. The blood dk? 97k in full tank gear. Granted he had more uptime on the boss for 50% + vengeance + add debuffs on boss would account for a decent difference in damage, but that's nearly double my damage. Now our recent nerfs were primarily to account for high aoe damage, while blizzard did nothing to DKs though they acknowledged dks were were doing high damage. Was said earlier that it was to equalize our raid damage and mitigation.. but this seems kind of ridiculous. The DK was even beating a good portion of our DPSers.. 400k death strikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triadragon View Post
    Anyone find the difference between prot warrs and blood dks in pve to be a little ridiculous?
    Yeah, DK's are simply stronger tanks than warriors at the moment and warriors have been poor in the mitigation stakes for the last three to four years. Warriors make up for this in utility, though, and we make exceptional off tanks at the moment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
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    Warriors did twice everybody elses damage, quit whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hezo View Post
    Warriors did twice everybody elses damage, quit whining.
    Gotta love 'dem trolls. They never give up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Well, it is possible for people, many people actually, to not think very highly of World of Warcraft. Those self same people may even consider other games in the genre superior due to their own subjective qualifiers. Qualifiers which are just as valid as the subjective qualifiers of those whom believe World of Warcraft is a "23 out of 10".

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