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    Quote Originally Posted by messi4h View Post
    only difference is: mana doesn't scale with gear anymore.
    Yes it does, both Mastery and Haste add VT ticks. And our 4-piece bonus adds a VT tick also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferin View Post
    More haste means faster VT ticks which boosts our mana regen. So yes, shadow does have mana regen from gear. Also mana is a total non-issue for shadow unless you're going really heavy on the AoE.
    More haste means you're spending your mana faster on more shadow word pains, and a lot more casts of Mind Flay.

    Haste isn't really a mana positive stat. Mastery on the other hand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelesti View Post
    More haste means you're spending your mana faster on more shadow word pains, and a lot more casts of Mind Flay.

    Haste isn't really a mana positive stat. Mastery on the other hand...
    Haste is definitely mana-positive. It causes you to have a relatively smaller number of DoT casts in your rotation, as their length does not decrease (at least, in the broad sense, ignoring local irregularities.) Mind Flay spends mana much more slowly than DoTs do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by espoire View Post
    Haste is definitely mana-positive. It causes you to have a relatively smaller number of DoT casts in your rotation, as their length does not decrease (at least, in the broad sense, ignoring local irregularities.) Mind Flay spends mana much more slowly than DoTs do.
    The length of DoTs does decrease between breakpoints, and then snaps back to full length when you hit the point where another tick is added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlee View Post
    The length of DoTs does decrease between breakpoints, and then snaps back to full length when you hit the point where another tick is added.
    Yes, so at the point where dots snap back to full your mana consumption on dots is the same as with low haste, but your regen is improved due to the faster ticks.

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