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    The evolution of 2handed swords

    It started awesome



    But then...it started getting shorter

    2handed Quel' Delar



    1handed Quel'Delar. If there is a difference I don't see it


    Ruthless 2handed sword


    Probably the next step in evolution



    What could be the reason ? It's pretty simple actually: Laziness. You see, making various weapon models requires actual work, so it's much easier to use one model/size and just bend it and add various textures to it. Since the devs still got to make dagger sized weapons, I wouldn't be surprised it take the easy path there too and just tag daggers as 2handed.

    And how come while all weapon models have been used several times, the model for Armageddon is just one, never used again except for some mobs ?

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    lold at the dagger 2h

    hope blizzard does designs like the good old Armageddon ^^

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    not epic but its stiller pretty large http://www.wowhead.com/item=81577

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    Quote Originally Posted by gegalfo View Post
    not epic but its stiller pretty large http://www.wowhead.com/item=81577
    still looks like a block and not a awesome looking weapon like tbc and vanila weapons...but this is what transmog is for..so blizzard can be lazy

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    Wow. Two small swords equals Blizzard being lazy?
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    Why, on these forums, does everything that people do not agree with Blizzard doing is always *laziness*.

    The two handed swords are actually pretty good. If people here are *so* smart, come up with 300+ designs, all different, on what is basically a long piece of metal on a handle, and still looks vaguely practical.

    Then come back and ramble about laziness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlrunner View Post
    Why, on these forums, does everything that people do not agree with Blizzard doing is always *laziness*.

    The two handed swords are actually pretty good. If people here are *so* smart, come up with 300+ designs, all different, on what is basically a long piece of metal on a handle, and still looks vaguely practical.

    Then come back and ramble about laziness.
    I would just challenge you to bring 3 2 Handed swords from cata that looked "cool" something that is worth transmogging a sword to look like not a sword that you are going to go get a far better looking one out of your void storage and change.. not even one that you are going to wield as is... but find swords that you would transmog a current weapon to look like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swunt View Post
    I would just challenge you to bring 3 2 Handed swords from cata that looked "cool" something that is worth transmogging a sword to look like not a sword that you are going to go get a far better looking one out of your void storage and change.. not even one that you are going to wield as is... but find swords that you would transmog a current weapon to look like.
    The issue is taste is entirely invidual. There are many weapons I think in Cata looked "cool", that others wouldn't. I also think that the style of TBC was horrific with weapons that looked like they belong in some kind of horrible sci-fi setting. Yet others would disagree.
    Point being, you cannot accuse a company of "being lazy" when they are being anything but. They aren't re-using the same models over and over, and instead are actually making new ones. Whether or not you may like them is inconsequential, as many others might do.

    Also, point still stands, its VERY hard to come up with differing designs of something that looks useable, whilst making it look nice. People just want to rant, rave and whinge about the biggest load of crap at times.

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    I'd actually complain about shrinking 1-handers

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    Quote Originally Posted by swunt View Post
    still looks like a block and not a awesome looking weapon like tbc and vanila weapons...but this is what transmog is for..so blizzard can be lazy
    looks as much like a block as the grand marshalls claymore does. and to reply to later posts, the only cata sword i can think of is gurthalak and that wasnt plain at all

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    Well 2h weapons just happen to be small for whatever reason. Not that I actually left a weapon in it's original state since transmogrification anyways since pretty much everything looks shit to me.

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    Cataclysmic Gladiator's Sword

    Heroic Zoid's Firelit greatsword

    Gurthalak

    I Like them all, and have seen many killer looking transmog sets using them.

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    I've noticed alot of re used models for BoE epics in MoP, not sure if that was the case in cata, I honestly can't remember, but it is kind of disapointing to pick up an epic and it looks exactly the same as the epic you were using at the begining of cata.

    But hey, its a small gripe, not something that takes away from the whole game IMO.

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    It is getting rather ridiculous. I've been levelling my 3rd Warrior to be my DPS Warrior and I gotta say the moment I hit 80 all the weapons just started to look like 1h weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullin View Post
    Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds.. Is this good enough? Or maybe to small?
    Do you know that its a recycled model from vanilla indeed?

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    http://www.wowhead.com/item=87061#.

    looks pretty gorram large to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swunt View Post
    I would just challenge you to bring 3 2 Handed swords from cata that looked "cool" something that is worth transmogging a sword to look like not a sword that you are going to go get a far better looking one out of your void storage and change.. not even one that you are going to wield as is... but find swords that you would transmog a current weapon to look like.
    How does you not liking a model translate to laziness?

    It's got nothing to do with laziness and FYI OP, the big swords from vanilla have lower polycounts and textures and were probably faster to make
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    Quote Originally Posted by unholytestament View Post
    Wow. Two small swords equals Blizzard being lazy?
    Don't you know? Anything that doesn't fit player expectations on how it should be, is "Blizzard being lazy again"?

    Even such a thing as there not being both a 1h AND 2h Strength weapon of both Axe, Mace AND Sword types at endgame, that's Blizzard Being Lazy, because there's always one race that won't get a tiny bit of an advantage with Expertise. In this tier, no Maces for PVE. That's OMG LAZINESS right there, if the Dwarves ever find out...

    OT, I do agree there should be a clear visible difference between 1h and 2h weapons. Quel'Delar is actually a fine example of that. They could easily have scaled the 2h versions up a bit. Something like Lerah's Ribsmasher doesn't look at all like a 2h sword.

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